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Old 03-25-2021, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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fentanyl will suppress breathing and he had a LETHAL AMOUNT in his system.



"People who died from fentanyl overdose had readings from 0.75 ng/mL to an astounding 113 ng/mL. The average death dose was 9.96 ng/mL. According to George Floyd's toxicology report, his blood contained 11.0 ng/mL Fentanyl, plus 5.6 ng/mL norfentanyl, 19 ng/mL of methamphetamine, and three other drugs."


https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/07/wh...e-of-fentanyl/


So the average death does is 9.96 and he had 11.0 ng/mL.
Fentanyl has a half life of 15 minutes. That means that it was limited in it's potency at the point of his death.

 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:23 PM
 
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All the more reason for the police to have helped him, rather than putting a knee to his neck and cuffing and restraining him further.
I saw the video`s. Floyd was nothing but combative. How exactly were the police supposed to help him. George Floyd killed George Floyd......before George Floyd, could hurt or kill someone else.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:25 PM
 
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Fentanyl has a half life of 15 minutes. That means that it was limited in it's potency at the point of his death.

He had a lethal amount of the drug in his blood...period.


He also had other drugs in his system.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:25 PM
 
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The job of the police is to protect the innocent from the criminals. The police do not know what drugs someone has taken minutes before.
The police are supposed to protect the community. George Floyd was part of that community. While they may have suspected him of wrongdoing, they still had an obligation to protect him. And they killed him instead.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:27 PM
 
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Fentanyl has a half life of 15 minutes. That means that it was limited in it's potency at the point of his death.



Here is the truth:


The elimination half-life of fentanyl is subject to some variation based on the method by which it’s administered. When taken intravenously, fentanyl has an elimination half-life of approximately 2 to 4 hours in adults, meaning it takes approximately 11 to 22 hours to leave your system.
If you use the patch or lozenge, fentanyl exhibits a half-life of approximately 7 to 17 hours, and it will take around 36 hours for the drug to completely leave your system after you stop using.



https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/f...l-stay-system/
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:27 PM
 
Location: NJ
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The two guys who drugged and murdered that girl in the hotel may not be charged with murder if her cause of death was the drugs they gave her.

Twice Floyd was on fatal fentanyl rage.

the media sure hyped this one.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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You don't know that. If you look at the video, the officer is not putting much pressure on him. It at least appears that way. I'm sure that will be sorted out in the trial. I'll wait for that decision. None of us have all the facts, regardless of how much we claim to. Wait for the trial.
I agree. Doesn’t look like much pressure was applied at all, just enough to hold him in place. GF was using illegal drugs and had all kinds of underlying conditions all of which contributed to his death far more than being held in place by the officer’s knee.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:28 PM
 
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The police are supposed to protect the community. George Floyd was part of that community. While they may have suspected him of wrongdoing, they still had an obligation to protect him. And they killed him instead.

George Floyd was the CRIMINAL they are hired to protect the community from!
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:31 PM
 
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I saw the video`s. Floyd was nothing but combative. How exactly were the police supposed to help him. George Floyd killed George Floyd......before George Floyd, could hurt or kill someone else.
I saw the video. I watched a man, handcuffed, with three officers holding his arms and legs down, while another officer had his knee on his neck, for nine long minutes. Nine long, long minutes. With a crowd of people watching, and recording, while George Floyd died. George Floyd pleaded with the officers, and told them he couldn't breathe. The crowd pleaded with the officers to help him. They didn't help him. One of the officers expressed concern, and Officer Chauvin told them to stay put. For nine minutes. George Floyd stopped breathing. And they didn't get off of him. When the EMS got there, they didn't immediately help George Floyd, and when they checked for a pulse, they didn't find one. Because the police had restrained a man until he died. George Floyd didn't kill George Floyd. The police killed George Floyd. Whether it was negligence or murder is up to a jury. But the simple fact is that George Floyd didn't have to die. He died because the police decided not to help him. And that is a tragedy for everyone involved.
 
Old 03-25-2021, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Do your research. Floyd held a gun to her abdomen.


"In 2007, Floyd was charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon. Investigators said Floyd and other men barged into an apartment, where he pushed a pistol into a woman’s abdomen. Floyd pleaded guilty and was sentenced to five years."


https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/06/10/for-george-floyd-a-complicated-life-and-a-notorious-death

False. Well debunked. Here is one...

https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...yd-allegedly-/

He was bad at that time beyond doubt. But we do not need to make it worse than it was. And there is pretty good evidence that Floyd was attempting to straighten out his life in recent years.
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