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Old 04-10-2021, 10:39 AM
 
Location: az
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Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner View Post
The ones they've chosen to address? Examples please.

Black Lives Matter the organization is nothing more than a money-hungry fraud created and led by Marxists who couldn't give a damn about the George Floyds of the world.

The ones I want them to address, if addressed, would actually show black lives matter. But black lives do not matter to Black Lives Matter the organization.
I wouldn't go that far but would agree the most important item on their agenda is... to keep the money flowing in. Sort of like Homeless Inc. in San Francisco. It's now big business with plenty of people earning a fat paycheck.

 
Old 04-10-2021, 10:55 AM
 
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The ones they've chosen to address? Examples please.

Black Lives Matter the organization is nothing more than a money-hungry fraud created and led by Marxists who couldn't give a damn about the George Floyds of the world.

The ones I want them to address, if addressed, would actually show black lives matter. But black lives do not matter to Black Lives Matter the organization.
Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement protesting against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people.

Do you mean example of police violence like this

City releases $5 million settlement agreement with Black officer beaten during protest

Five St. Louis police officers have been federally indicted for beating Officer Luther Hall during a 2017 protest


Or this
Newly released video from a Los Angeles police officer’s body camera shows two officers grappling with and arresting a Black man outside his Hollywood home as they responded to reports of a domestic violence incident in which the suspect was the white boyfriend of a neighbor.

A federal magistrate ordered the public disclosure of the video Friday as part of a lawsuit alleging racial profiling and civil rights violations brought by music producer Antone Austin, known as Tone Stackz, who was arrested in May 2019 despite not being the suspect in a domestic violence call. Austin and his girlfriend Michelle Michlewicz were taken into custody for resisting arrest.
 
Old 04-10-2021, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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I made one point, just one point, and it was a short and simple point: “other circumstances can justifiably affect what the cop does”. And it’s obvious from your reply that you agree, because one of your points (and only one), refers to “other circumstances”: the question of a threat by the bystanders.

Two responses. One is that I have seen the claim that one of the bystanders tried to approach Chauvin, but was pulled back by another bystander. The other is one that I previously mentioned: you are viewing the situation with the benefit of hindsight. You know that the bystanders didn’t attack the cops, but Chauvin didn’t know that they wouldn’t attack, so he had to bear that possibility in mind. Newsweek reported “At least two witnesses remembered Chauvin at least grabbing for his Mace, and a 17-year-old remembers him brandishing it at the crowd”. Clearly he was concerned about this danger, and maybe it’s only because of that mace that the crowd didn’t attack. It has also been argued that the paramedics didn’t treat Floyd at the scene because they were concerned about the crowd.
https://www.newsweek.com/teen-witnes...s-mace-1579946
Chauvin afraid of that "crowd?" Chauvin wasn't having it. His ego is what made him threaten the few bystanders (including a child) with his mace. That was Chauvin saying, "don't ef with me cause I'll ef you up if you do!"

There is a reason Chauvin's wife wasted no time filing for divorce (three days after incident) when circumstances (incarceration of Chauvin) allowed for her safety.
 
Old 04-10-2021, 10:59 AM
 
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According to Chauvin the "child" was described as 6 feet, 2 inches tall and at least 240 pounds.

Chauvin is 5'9 and 154.
Lucky for that child. Otherwise that 14 year old would be dead.
 
Old 04-10-2021, 11:00 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Agree there are quite a few folks who tend to believe police officers can do no wrong.

Without the various videos, it is possible the 4 police officers would still be working as police officers. Without the videos, they may not have been investigated or disciplined for misconduct, much less charged with crimes, much much less convicted.

https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGS...nslaughter.pdf
I don't believe police officers can do no wrong. In fact quite the contrary. On the other hand they have a tough job to do and need some leeway. I was always taught to keep my activities as far away from the need for police intervention as possible.
 
Old 04-10-2021, 11:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Sprawling_Homeowner View Post
The ones they've chosen to address? Examples please.

Black Lives Matter the organization is nothing more than a money-hungry fraud created and led by Marxists who couldn't give a damn about the George Floyds of the world.

The ones I want them to address, if addressed, would actually show black lives matter. But black lives do not matter to Black Lives Matter the organization.
I don't know if you are aware of this but this trial does not involve the BLM or Proud Boys, neither defendant or plaintiff
 
Old 04-10-2021, 11:06 AM
 
Location: az
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Lucky for that child. Otherwise that 14 year old would be dead.
Nevertheless, 6'2 and 240 is a very large.

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Chauvin afraid of that "crowd?" Chauvin wasn't having it. His ego is what made him threaten the few bystanders (including a child) with his mace. That was Chauvin saying, "don't ef with me cause I'll ef you up if you do!"

There is a reason Chauvin's wife wasted no time filing for divorce (three days after incident) when circumstances (incarceration of Chauvin) allowed for her safety.
More like an attempt to protect their assets.
 
Old 04-10-2021, 11:06 AM
 
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I don't believe police officers can do no wrong. In fact quite the contrary. On the other hand they have a tough job to do and need some leeway. I was always taught to keep my activities as far away from the need for police intervention as possible.
Ok.
 
Old 04-10-2021, 11:07 AM
 
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City releases $5 million settlement agreement with Black officer beaten during protest

Five St. Louis police officers have been federally indicted for beating Officer Luther Hall during a 2017 protest


This case demonstrates that there are bad racist cops who are costing taxpayers millions.

He was a police officer beaten because he was black.You can’t argue he was a criminal. You can’t argue he resisted arrest.

He was black they beat him and now they are indicted

This is why BLM exists
 
Old 04-10-2021, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Your injecting so many of your own opinions and thoughts concerning this case, as facts. The fact is we don't know what Derek Chauvin was thinking because as far as I have read he hasn't told us. Secondly, your depicting him out to be this horrible person when in fact as a police officer, he has won awards for his role as an officer. You need to get real. It's understood you feel he is guilty concerning this case, but making up stuff is ridiculous.

We will hear from the defense witnesses soon, looking forward to it.
Are you referring to these awards?

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Online city records also show that 17 complaints have been filed against Chauvin. Sixteen complaints were closed with no discipline. The remaining complaint generated two letters of reprimand, with one apparently related to the use of a squad car dashboard camera. The records don’t include any details on the substance of the complaints.
Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin’s work, personal background detailed; had nearly 20 complaints and two letters of reprimand
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