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My impression and understating of this woman’s opinion is that she is comparing the conditions and issues that led to the rise of power in Germany, and the National Socialist Party/. Not a direct analogy, as we certainly do not have concentration camps , thankfully. The closest we came was probably under FDR when he gathered up all Japanese American Citizens.
I have in other posts , drawn similar analogies between pre ww Germany and the current environment here in America at this time. And there are some that definitely have some merit.
Basically , to be brief, the first revolves around principles and perceptions that are not true and exploited for political gain . The Reichstag Fire was used to increase scrutiny and distaste for a rival political party by falsifying certian aspects and outright lies. A similar situation occurred after Jan 6th, when it was declared as a “ White Supremacist Insurrection” , without any hard evidence to support it.
This led to a new focus on” domestic terrorism” , an elusive label that nearly defies description, renewed , increased and even new entrances of the Government into the privacy of others searching bankrecords and credit card, receipts , etc. The Democrats even used the Jan 6th incident to surround the Capitol with barb wire and had several thousands troops on hand. This actually is very close to what occurred in 1930’s Germany, which gave the people a false sense that , “ internal enemies” were to blame, and they have been harassed . Indeed, Nancy Pelosi even said it was enemies within the Capitol to be concerned about.
Secondly, there is similarity today to what was in pre ww 2 Germany’s “ enabling Law” , which muzzled the press to control dissent and opposition. Sound familiar? Not the Democrats themselves, but their water carriers and Media enablers do the heavy lifting. And then of course, are their pals in Big Tech , who can just drop you off the Free Speech cliff. And now we are seeing even Corporate “ enablers” , the consequences of Democracy passed Elections Laws being called out by Corporations after they received a call from the DNC no doubt.
And then lastly is the Fear and Intimidation analogy. No, there aren’t concentration camps for enemies and dissenters, but there are specific platforms attacking certain groups, like The Founding Fathers , White Males those considered to be “ racist” by comments or deeds . What is strikingly similar is the sculpturing of the media to support one political view, while opposite views are either not recognized as legitimate, or ignored.
There is actually a lot more. Otherwise, I would never consider it to be a good decision to discount and belittle the words of those that have actually lived through history. We allow great latitude to those who gather historical facts regarding their assimilation and output, we should just as well pay attention to those with their ear closer to the ground.
Some great points there. I have explained to others that she does not literally mean that it's as bad now as nazi Germany she is noticing the warning signs that are similar. The citizens were let into the capital I believe on purpose to make them look bad. Normally the security is very tight at the capital and police officers were waving people in. this was definitely a false flag. I am hearing reports all they can charge the people with is trespassing for the most part.
Cancel culture is another indicator that is concerning. they will silence the opposition with censorship while allowing people who agree with them on the left to do whatever they want. There is a definite double standard. some people got real angry at my post I think they just did not understand that the women were using an analogy for problems that could come about if we continue on this road. authoritarian governments have always used censorship as a tool China right now is one example were they are committing genocide against muslims.
Big Tech has tremendous power and I believe is working with the government. They get government funds and Facebook even has ties to the CIA.
It's scary times. When you warn people they shrug it off or get angry at you. They say oh nothing like that could happen again. It might not happen exactly like that but it could have very similar outcomes.
The talk of vaccine passports are really concerning to me.
Some great points there. I have explained to others that she does not literally mean that it's as bad now as nazi Germany she is noticing the warning signs that are similar. The citizens were let into the capital I believe on purpose to make them look bad. Normally the security is very tight at the capital and police officers were waving people in. this was definitely a false flag. I am hearing reports all they can charge the people with is trespassing for the most part.
Cancel culture is another indicator that is concerning. they will silence the opposition with censorship while allowing people who agree with them on the left to do whatever they want. There is a definite double standard. some people got real angry at my post I think they just did not understand that the women were using an analogy for problems that could come about if we continue on this road. authoritarian governments have always used censorship as a tool China right now is one example were they are committing genocide against muslims.
Big Tech has tremendous power and I believe is working with the government. They get government funds and Facebook even has ties to the CIA.
It's scary times. When you warn people they shrug it off or get angry at you. They say oh nothing like that could happen again. It might not happen exactly like that but it could have very similar outcomes.
The talk of vaccine passports are really concerning to me.
Thanks. I tried to be brief but there is a lot more to consider. It is a subject I have always studied and had an interest in.
Yes, the Capitol “ insurrection” claim had similar tones to the Reichstag Fire. Someone else on this site mentioned it several months, ago, unfortunately I cant remember who.
And AOC specifically stated her fears for being in a room with other Lawmakers ( Republicans) . If that isn’t exactly what was referred to as internal enemies by the National Socialist Party, I don’t know. Indeed, her verbal summary on Instagram was extremely dramatic , almost mimicking the knock on the door from pre ww2 Germany.
She is not senile but more intelligent than the average person. she points out good points why to sacrifice the young for the old. the mask is similar to the yellow star.
graduations were canceled. funerals were not allowed. people lost their businesses without government compensation.
all for a virus that has a 99 percent survival rate.
No, the mask is in no way similar to the yellow star! Disgusting!
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Exactly. I was just reading some of the earlier replies, and I think people are taking it too literally and assuming that she's comparing the Holocaust exactly to what we've experienced so far. The real comparison is that this is how it starts, and now it's more than for just certain groups of people. And the people doing it are openly talking about their plans to fundamentally change the country, and the world.
People from other countries have also urgently informed us of the warning signs of government takeovers, etc.
It's so odd how often the famous "never forget" (so it doesn't happen again) phrase is repeated, yet it's so often not heeded.
It's because of the extremely deceptive thread title, on the part of the OP, and the Trump site that wanted you to believe a Holocaust survivor would ACTUALLY SAY THAT. They're counting you people reading the headline, and believing it.
We still mourn the civil war as a national tragedy over 150 years later and that was 600k American deaths too.
And that was WITH changing our behavior, something we never did for other viruses. Our (still insufficient to the tune of 600k) cleanliness trying to stop this virus completely crushed the weak by comparison flu virus and we had virtually no flu deaths this year.
You deny that the majority of deaths are in older people?
No I don’t deny that. In fact If you search my thread history you’ll see I pointed out the fact that the average age of covid death is more or less the same as the average life expectancy at birth today.
Actually a discussion might be in order to discuss the similarities between the mandates and orders, including masks , to the Gleichschaltung.
You obviously know very, very little about what happened to people who had to be in the ghettos and camps. I know a whole lot, and it was horrifying and devastating. I do not care to repeat my parents' experiences, or the current lack of family.
The OP admitted to his mistake on posting this, although he still continues with it.
Sing to your own chorus. And again, due to the TOS, that's all I will say.
You obviously know very, very little about what happened to people who had to be in the ghettos and camps. I know a whole lot, and it was horrifying and devastating. I do not care to repeat my parents' experiences, or the current lack of family.
The OP admitted to his mistake on posting this, although he still continues with it.
Sing to your own chorus. And again, due to the TOS, that's all I will say.
after I apologized i explained that in no way does anyone think what is happening now is as bad as nazi Germany your missing the point that the path we are going down now could lead to problems.
i can not change my opinion on this. I am very truthful and think I have been respectful going forward. you may not like my opinion but I have been respectful nonetheless. something tells me we are on the opposite sides of the political sides. I am concerned about Americans freedoms.
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