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Old 04-04-2021, 01:29 PM
 
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So don’t read them. Ignore them.
And then one day your ignorant bliss may be disturbed.
And you may wonder how it happened.
I pointed out the better comparative of using the direct historical precedent here in the US of the Polio outbreaks as opposed to gross extrapolation to the holocaust.

Clearly you are unable to muster a more thoughtful response than what was essentially "shut up, don't take part in an open discussion" and everyone reading here knows why that was your response.
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Old 04-04-2021, 01:41 PM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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I started comparing this to what is happening in communist china. no one on here ever denied the holocaust happened.

I am one of the most truthful people on this forum. I can not delete my first post or change the tittle the website only allows you to change something for a certain amount of time.

i would have changed the title but I can not I am not a moderator. so no i have no control over it so therefore i have nothing to be guilty of nor did i flip flop.
If only we could see ourselves as others see us, eh?
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Old 04-04-2021, 01:56 PM
 
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are you for vaccine passports?

your a very judgmental person. I have no control over deleting anything on this site you are ignorant and try to make others feel guilty because your a judgmental person who is intolerant of everything you disagree with.

Not sure how I feel about vaccine passports because they can probably be faked.


No, I don't care or need for others to feel guilty. It just pisses me off if they say one thing and do another. That's dishonesty at the least and cowardice at the most. I did have trust in you.
I like people and want to trust them; good health care professionals usually do.



Ha, I wish I had reason to be ignorant of the "facts" raised in that video and by some others here. I would have aunts, uncles, and lots of cousins if that were true. I could have had grandparents. And my parents wouldn't have been as emotionally and physically scarred.



But then I would WANT to learn the true facts, historically and from actual people who witnessed it (more than this derp in the video) and knew of the historical issues that lead to the Holocaust. And I certainly have, and have read many history books about the precursors in hopes of understanding. I have dug deep. The books are in my library.
One of my main questions has always been... "Why"? Why did human beings do this to other human beings?
I found out as much as I could, from all viewpoints.



Thankfully I still don't hate, at all. I do feel sorry for those who choose to remain stubborn with no desire to explore other ways of looking at a situation.
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Old 04-04-2021, 02:08 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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This thread needs to be officially called the most ridiculous thread of the year.
Plato
THE ALLEGORY OF THE CAVE

And the final outcome:
SOCRATES: And if they can get hold of this person who takes it in hand to free them from their chains and to lead them up, and if they could kill him, will they not actually kill him?
GLAUCON: They certainly will.
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Old 04-04-2021, 03:00 PM
 
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They won't even consider changing a thread or post if you don't ask. I have had to do it before, when an incident I mentioned on this site regarding a family member, was later in a news report. I requested they remove it, and they did.
I messaged a moderator about it.

I have also compared the mask to the western burka. You know how Muslims like to cover their women's faces.

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Old 04-04-2021, 03:16 PM
 
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She's a paid actor giving a prepared speech. You can tell that because the speech was too well organized to be off the cuff. What's her name? What concentration camp was she held in? What became of her family? No one knows, because it's BS.

The offensive analogy of comparing Jews being forced to wear yellow stars in Nazi Germany to mask wearing has been used before and universally condemned by Jewish groups as well as actual holocaust deniers, who give their names.

Here are some legit references.
Auschwitz Survivor Condemns Anti-maskers Complaining about Personal Liberties as Clueless

Auschwitz Memorial calls out Springfield woman for comment comparing masks to Nazi tactics
People have also compared the mask to the "Western Burka"
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Old 04-04-2021, 04:29 PM
 
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I pointed out the better comparative of using the direct historical precedent here in the US of the Polio outbreaks as opposed to gross extrapolation to the holocaust.

Clearly you are unable to muster a more thoughtful response than what was essentially "shut up, don't take part in an open discussion" and everyone reading here knows why that was your response.
I lived through the Polio outbreak as a child. I remember seeing children stricken.

You have totally misunderstood the analogy between Pre 2 Germany, and the practices of the National Socialist Party, and some of the behavior and policies of the present ever moving Left Democratic Party.

My goodness, Kamala Harris called the BLM strategy and behavior “ brilliant” . BLM was founded by admitted Marxists .Before they scrubbed it from their website, they opening campaigned for the elimination of the traditional family. As if supporting the 70 % of out of wedlock Blacks babies being born actually help their culture. Go figure.

The present VP of the US openly praised BLM, a MARXIST organization. What other proof do you need?

I basically told you to shut up and go elsewhere, as it is appears that you have not done the proper research and considered the similarities. And these similarities to pre ww2 Germany have something to do with the COVID outbreak,and the Government response , but that is just a portion of the conversation. And that’s what you are missing.

The main emphasis of the analogy is the taking over of culture, and demanding that culture, practices and norms fit into the approved and accepted “ party line “. Like I said, do the research. See how the same things that happened before , are happening again. The muzzling of the press and free speech. The curtailment of civil rights, movement, business, commerce, on and on.

The POTUS openly endorsed private corporations to interfere in the Legislative decisions that represent the Will of the People. This is exactly the kind of issues that came up in pre ww2 Germany.The National Socialist Party strived to, and were successful in incorporating nearly every facet of commerce, business, education , culture , religion into their mission.

And what do we see today? The ever growing Leftist base of Academia, the MSM, Big Tech, and increasingly corporations all gathering under the same umbrella. Preventing dissent when ever and wherever they can. Shaming, canceling , spreading lies, on and on. Now do you see the similarities?

Let me just say this, sit back, do some research and think about it before you fire off another post.

If I was sitting in a restaurant 5 years ago, after just attending a concert at an arena with 10,000 people attending , and was having some dinner with some friends and said this.

Hey guys, look around. Take it in in now because in 5 years you are going to wish we could be here again.
The arena we just went to will be empty. The restaurant here, crowded, loud boisterous , will be empty.
The owners of this business will be nearly broke . All the workers here will be out of a job and struggle to find employment and keep a roof over their heads. As a mater of fact, the business owners themselves may find themselves handcuffed and taken to jail. Incarcerated. My friends would have asked me what I was smoking.

What was their crime?

Their “ crime” was they resisted the Government from infringing upon their ability to make a living. They refused to pay the thousands of dollars in fines. Were the fines for Lysteria, norovirus, or some other food borne illness where in their customers got sick ? NO.

They made no one ill. They made no one sick. The Government, due to an “ order” on the premise of a “ public health Emergency “ , told them they had to stay closed. A “ public Health Emergency “ dictated by “ experts’ who changed the information from Day one.

A “ public health emergency “ that was based on the suspicion that an unknown person may encounter other unknown persons in that establishment and spread a disease. A disease, though serious, ended up being responsible fo the deaths of less that 2 tenths of a percent of the population. Where the vast majority of deaths were the elderly , the sick and the weak. Less than 10 % of the deaths were to people under 50.

5 years ago, who would have thought? 2 years go, who had thought? In the blink of an eye, children were prevented from getting an education, in a state like I live with 3.5 million people, 4 children under the age of 19 dies from COVID.

So you see a little more clearly now? The Supreme Court has ruled the Government violated Religious freedoms. Some states have ruled the mandates a are unconstitutional.

What is to stop the Government from declaring a “ Public Health Emergency “ any time they wish to modify the citizens lifestyles and behavior, infringe upon the Civil Rights and basic rights regarding the pursuit of happiness. ?

On it’s own the COVID mandates and restrictions are troubling enough. Add in the movement more to the Left by the Democratic Party and you have a perfect storm foundation to continue to shape the media, and formulate the culture that only adheres to the specific needs , wants, desires and demands of the Party in control.

It is the beginnings of Authoritarian style Governing, regardless of if you want to accept it or not.

I can’t stress enough to immerse yourself in historical information regarding what the National Socialist Party did , and where we are heading today under this regime. And please, please, stop saying that it is only about the horrors of the Concentration Camps. It isn’t. Those places were directly related to many of the other attributes of the Party at that time.

Listen and think. If they can get you to wear a mask, the sky is the limit. Because in the early stages of the rise of the National Socialist Party, many, many wealthy Jews supported them, as did the Teacher’s Unions. And sadly, we all know how it all turned out.
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Old 04-04-2021, 04:48 PM
 
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I messaged a moderator about it.

I have also compared the mask to the western burka. You know how Muslims like to cover their women's faces.
Glad to hear that you asked. Hey, thanks moderator.


OK...what does a burka have to do with it? In our state plenty of women wear burkas. They wear them for religious reasons, as you know. They wear them because they want to follow their religious mandates.


It has nothing to do with a global pandemic. We are currently experiencing a possible third wave of a global pandemic, believe it or not. And I hope for your sake, you aren't affected in any way. It's awful.
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Old 04-04-2021, 05:00 PM
 
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Glad to hear that you asked. Hey, thanks moderator.


OK...what does a burka have to do with it? In our state plenty of women wear burkas. They wear them for religious reasons, as you know. They wear them because they want to follow their religious mandates.


It has nothing to do with a global pandemic. We are currently experiencing a possible third wave of a global pandemic, believe it or not. And I hope for your sake, you aren't affected in any way. It's awful.

The burka is a symbol of submission and The mask can be seen as a sign of submission.

I don't understand why you don't see some people's rights have been taken away from covid restrictions. if you had a business and you were forced to shut down you would not be happy. children were denied an education when the virus does not affect them. Some business owners were arrested for not shutting down . They had every right to make a living. They got no compensation from the government.

I believe vaccine passports are unethical and I believe in Europe they are trying to pass a law that you can not discriminate against people who do not get the vaccine.

nobody should be forced to take any vaccine.

I don't know how true it is but they did a study where they found people with O-positive blood are less likely to get covid and If they do get it it's less severe. I happen to have o positive blood. there are people naturally already immuned from this coronavirus is nothing new.

I believe even the cdc said the asymptomatic spread was very rare.

they are treating people healthy as sick.

I told the moderator I wanted the title to change to do covid restrictions infringe on peoples rights or something like that.

This is what I believe is happening. now there is a different german guy you have to worry about.

claus schwab the head of the economic forum that will strip away property rights and among others....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF_kXE-HXSQ&t=95s

Europe is also concerned about the vaccine passports being used to discriminate and create second class citizens.......
https://www.thelocal.se/20210313/eu-...an-commission/

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Old 04-04-2021, 05:57 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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The burka is a symbol of submission and The mask can be seen as a sign of submission.
imo, you have that backwards. The burka can be seen as a symbol of submission, the mask is a sign of submission.

It's all in where a person's choice lays.
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