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Old 04-06-2021, 09:39 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
Wrong. You are believing what the media is feeding you. I know several who will not get the vaccine and it has nothing to do with politics. It's the media telling you that.

The truth is that this is an unapproved vaccine authorized for emergency use.
We are all guinea pigs and researchers will study us to see if there are any long term effects..like 5-10 years down the road.
What media? I don't watch US media.

It's more to do with what I read on this board.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:43 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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What media? I don't watch US media.

It's more to do with what I read on this board.
Oh my...P&OC is culture unto itself.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:43 PM
 
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I think that's an incrediby naive assumption on your part.
Is it? Are you in the business of live concert events?

I am and I'm speaking from the POV of belonging to various professional orgs to do with such.

As soon as promoters are able to drop any kind of entry requirements (if they instil them at all) to large festivals etc they will. They are in the business of selling tickets not public health. Any barrier to entry whatsoever is not desirable for them.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:43 PM
 
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It is really hilarious. The same people who do not want any mandates are trying to convince people not to get vaccinated. The more unvaccinated people there are, the longer the mandates will last.

Those who are against vaccinating keep minimizing the risks of the disease and are afraid of "long term effects" - unspecified - that have about zero probability of happening.

For the mRNA vaccines real life experience is confirming their safety and efficacy, so the argument that they are "not FDA approved" is probably going to evaporate before the end of the year. Both Pfizer and Moderna are preparing applications for full licensure.
We simply do not have enough data on these vaccines to say whether or not they have any long term consequences.

You know this. Of course, all anyone has to do is look at your posting history and they'll know something's not quite right.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:44 PM
 
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Oh my...P&OC is culture unto itself.
True! But it is an excellent window into the minds of extremists and conspiracy theorists.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:48 PM
 
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True! But it is an excellent window into the minds of extremists and conspiracy theorists.
Remember when vaccine passports were considered a conspiracy theory?
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:49 PM
 
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Is it? Are you in the business of live concert events?

I am and I'm speaking from the POV of belonging to various professional orgs to do with such.

As soon as promoters are able to drop any kind of entry requirements (if they instil them at all) to large festivals etc they will. They are in the business of selling tickets not public health. Any barrier to entry whatsoever is not desirable for them.
Great post
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:50 PM
 
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Remember when vaccine passports were considered a conspiracy theory?
Yep.

Let me know when you have to get yours or be thrown into some kind of Gulag.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:54 PM
 
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The Federal Government has already said they will NOT mandate vaccine passports. They may participate in development, but if you’re not mandated to participate it just doesn’t matter.

Not to mention that Naomi Wolfe isn’t credible. She lost her credibility a long time ago and has devolved into pushing many conspiracy theories.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.c...y-theories.amp
When you can't refute an argument, just resort to name calling.
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Old 04-06-2021, 09:58 PM
 
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Disagree with you on that. She may be a little over the top but the privacy and surveillance concerns are real and being echoed by many.
I agree she's been wrong and over the top on some things.

A 'conspiracy theorist' she is not.

This woman reads the legislation and proposed legislation in the U.S., U.K., Canada, & Australia like almost no one else. And it's amazing how similar the legislative attacks on civil liberties have been in different countries.
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