After Police Shoot 13-Year Old Dead in Chicago; Lightfoot asks for police foot pursuit practices to be "reformed" (elect, government)
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Until it happens to them and then they’ll be crying for the police.
Police are in a no win situation.
The same people who accuse CPD for allowing so many to be shot are often the same people who protest when someone is taken down.
And then there are the agitators.
Last August a guy was in the street waving and pointing a gun at people. Police responded. Gun battle ensure. Bad guy gets shot. Within minutes people took to social media to claim CPD once again killed an unarmed black child was shot in the face and killed. The masses pile on.
Reality is the guy shot was not a child, was armed and engaged in a gun battle with police. He was wounded, not killed.
12 hours later, 3000 +/- people descended on multiple business districts, some with heavy objects to cause property damage and engage in looting. Many live streamed themselves and others while doing so. It became the single largest overnight looting in US history. Much of it was captured on security cameras.
This was not a gang event. This was not a result of a protest. Just opportunistic criminals.
Most of the 3000 who engaged were black teens and young adults out of a total black population of about 900,000. In other words, about 897,000 black people in the city did not engage and slept through the whole thing like most people.
Of the 3000, about 300 were arrested. Many arrested claimed they were just driving bye and saw the commotion and decided to check it out. Yeah, sure.
The Police were substantially outnumbered.
In store security camera footage played non stop on local news. Rather fascinating to see some 35- 50 year olds, professionally dressed casually strolling through shops at 3:00 AM deciding what to take. Almost as fascinating as youths who performed in front of the security cameras.
"sometimes". Sometimes citizens stop crime in progress too. "Sometimes" someone robs someone and the victim shoots the robber. The reality is cops have no legal obligation to stop or intervene in crime. It's simply not their job. And that's the point. so this weird narrative that all of a sudden crime will just go out of control because police can't get away with killing unarmed citizens on camera. It frankly just odd to me. Most cops don't want to do anything but show up to work for the next few decades and get a fat pension. Some are overzealous. But the perspective that a cop is protecting you from threats of violence is just false.
Show us a civilized country where the removal of policing has been successful.
Stop talking about some fairytale utopia with unicorns and leprechauns.
Police say officers were dispatched to a largely Latino neighborhood in the city’s West Side on March 29 after the department’s ShotSpotter technology detected eight gunshots. When police arrived, Adam and a 21-year-old man fled, according to Chicago Police Department Superintendent David Brown.
There was an "armed confrontation" during which the officer shot Adam once in the chest, police said. He died at the scene. The 21-year-old man was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of resisting arrest.
Lightfoot, however, suggested that Adam had the gun.
"We will find the person who put the gun in Adam’s hand," Lightfoot said. "An adult put a gun in a child’s hand, a young impressionable child who should not be provided with lethal force."
The same people who accuse CPD for allowing so many to be shot are often the same people who protest when someone is taken down.
And then there are the agitators.
Last August a guy was in the street waving and pointing a gun at people. Police responded. Gun battle ensure. Bad guy gets shot. Within minutes people took to social media to claim CPD once again killed an unarmed black child was shot in the face and killed. The masses pile on.
Reality is the guy shot was not a child, was armed and engaged in a gun battle with police. He was wounded, not killed.
12 hours later, 3000 +/- people descended on multiple business districts, some with heavy objects to cause property damage and engage in looting. Many live streamed themselves and others while doing so. It became the single largest overnight looting in US history. Much of it was captured on security cameras.
This was not a gang event. This was not a result of a protest. Just opportunistic criminals.
Most of the 3000 who engaged were black teens and young adults out of a total black population of about 900,000. In other words, about 897,000 black people in the city did not engage and slept through the whole thing like most people.
Of the 3000, about 300 were arrested. Many arrested claimed they were just driving bye and saw the commotion and decided to check it out. Yeah, sure.
The Police were substantially outnumbered.
In store security camera footage played non stop on local news. Rather fascinating to see some 35- 50 year olds, professionally dressed casually strolling through shops at 3:00 AM deciding what to take. Almost as fascinating as youths who performed in front of the security cameras.
Let's be honest. Policing doesn't work. When policing is just law enforcement, it is wholly ineffective at protection or security. When it becomes crime prevention, policing easily becomes unconstitutional and a severe violation of civil liberties. Most cops are pretty bad, and people don't want to become cops. Because people who have intelligence and skills can make more money doing other things that are more lucrative. So what is left are people who are incompetent. Or people who are more in love with the power of the badge instead of protecting people.
We have people defending the system of policing like it's the most sacred and effective way to stop crime or protect yourself. And they feel like it's the only thing keep us from chaos. The reality is that they aren't that great at anything.
Which is why we just need a new system altogether. I personally think drones should be used for traffic stops. Private firms should be hired to lead investigations. The rise in in-home cameras for the average home has lead to far more reduction in home break-ins than police presence ever has or ever will.
Legalize drugs, turn it into a business and an industry. Crime related to drug abuse go away.
We really don't need police anymore. And everyone will figure this out at some point. Once we stop worshipping police and actually use our brains
Let's be honest. Policing doesn't work. When policing is just law enforcement, it is wholly ineffective at protection or security. When it becomes crime prevention, policing easily becomes unconstitutional and a severe violation of civil liberties. Most cops are pretty bad, and people don't want to become cops. Because people who have intelligence and skills can make more money doing other things that are more lucrative. So what is left are people who are incompetent. Or people who are more in love with the power of the badge instead of protecting people.
We have people defending the system of policing like it's the most sacred and effective way to stop crime or protect yourself. And they feel like it's the only thing keep us from chaos. The reality is that they aren't that great at anything.
Which is why we just need a new system altogether. I personally think drones should be used for traffic stops. Private firms should be hired to lead investigations. The rise in in-home cameras for the average home has lead to far more reduction in home break-ins than police presence ever has or ever will.
Legalize drugs, turn it into a business and an industry. Crime related to drug abuse go away.
We really don't need police anymore. And everyone will figure this out at some point. Once we stop worshipping police and actually use our brains
I was going to respond until I realized your entire post was delusional.
Some cops don't know what their job is. And are dumb enough to try to stop a crime in progress. A lot of cops are smart enough to know that you wait until after everyone has been shot and killed, then you file a report. It's not a cop's job to actually stop crime. And that's a fact.
if you think stopping a crime in progress is not within the realm of a cop's duties, then we have nothing more to discuss.
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Originally Posted by Chuckity
I was going to respond until I realized your entire post was delusional.
Let's be honest. Policing doesn't work. When policing is just law enforcement, it is wholly ineffective at protection or security. When it becomes crime prevention, policing easily becomes unconstitutional and a severe violation of civil liberties. Most cops are pretty bad, and people don't want to become cops. Because people who have intelligence and skills can make more money doing other things that are more lucrative. So what is left are people who are incompetent. Or people who are more in love with the power of the badge instead of protecting people.
We have people defending the system of policing like it's the most sacred and effective way to stop crime or protect yourself. And they feel like it's the only thing keep us from chaos. The reality is that they aren't that great at anything.
Which is why we just need a new system altogether. I personally think drones should be used for traffic stops. Private firms should be hired to lead investigations. The rise in in-home cameras for the average home has lead to far more reduction in home break-ins than police presence ever has or ever will.
Legalize drugs, turn it into a business and an industry. Crime related to drug abuse go away.
We really don't need police anymore. And everyone will figure this out at some point. Once we stop worshipping police and actually use our brains
Bad policing does not work.
Keeping the peace is no longer the game. It is all "for profit" today.
The only job the sheriff, their deputies have is to protect and secure your rights. Nothing else.
The job of corporate hired security, called "The City Police", is to protect and serve the best interest of the corporation that hired them. That is why you see NO accountability.
Look, the Minneapolis Police Internal Affairs cleared that cop, that was just convicted of Murder.
Only public outcry to the magnitude that it did, caused the DA to appease the destruction... They were not fired until the DA went forward.
Police reform needs to take a huge step back from the police state we live in today.
Personal Liberty is all but gone.
Show us a civilized country where the removal of policing has been successful.
Stop talking about some fairytale utopia with unicorns and leprechauns.
Shows us some reality.
You do realize that public policing is a relatively new thing right? In the USA and UK it didn't become common until the late 19th century. Community policing and security was far more common back then. I personally think some government funded police force is silly and only protects politicians.
I was going to respond until I realized your entire post was delusional.
Yeah, I thought the same.
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