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Old 04-11-2021, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Canada
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I’m in Manitoba. We may or may not be at the start of a third wave. We border Ontario where the third wave is in full swing. We don’t want ANYONE visiting from Ontario right now.

I can’t see Canada opening its borders to foreigners until Canadians are comfortable with domestic visitors from other provinces.

I think that might be by September, earlier perhaps for those presenting vaccine passports.

The wildcard is virus mutations. If a new mutation surfaces which existing vaccines are not effective against, I can see the border staying closed longer.

The border closure is not just in effect for the U.S., it applies to ALL foreign countries. I suspect the Canadian border will open to U.K. and the EU citizens by September as well.
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Old 04-11-2021, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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No matter what Trump did some Democrats complained no diff than what some Republicans did during the Obama years and are once again for Biden. It’s noise.

Trump dragged his feet on travel restrictions with Europe, the source of most infections in NYC and beyond.

EVERY country accelerated trials and approvals. It would have been really weird had the US not done so. Trump did what every other country did.

Both the UK and Canada approved before the US.
I do realize you will not give Trump credit for anything.
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Old 04-11-2021, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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It wasn't a ban, but restrictions. 300,000 people entered the US from China, the month before. Too late.

As for cutting red tape. No. You have bought into one of Trump's Con moves.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...pportune-time/
I did ban/restrictions. American citizens in China were, of course, allowed back into the U.S.

Washingtonpost "source?" No, thanks.
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Old 04-11-2021, 09:46 PM
 
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Not that you'd have any reason to be aware of how medicines get their approval here in the U.S., but it's a very very slow, time-consuming, smothered in red-tape process. The actual development of the medicine may be done fairly quickly. But getting approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration can drag it out interminably. They have to do tests, and trials, and then more tests and more trials, and so on. Generally, they don't have any sense of urgency whatsoever, so they'll take their own sweet time running things through their process. It can, and almost always does, take years.

I give full credit to the scientists and doctors and researchers who developed these vaccines as quickly as they did. But I also give former President Trump credit for slicing through the red tape of our own government to start getting the vaccines into the arms of the people as quickly as they did.
Let's be real though -- EVERY country fast tracked the approvals. And it wasn't following the lead of the USA - -it was sometimes in advance of the USA.
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Old 04-11-2021, 09:48 PM
 
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I did ban/restrictions. American citizens in China were, of course, allowed back into the U.S.

Washingtonpost "source?" No, thanks.

450 thousands travelers came from China from end of January to April 2021...not all American citizens -- the ban was on Chinese nationals only.
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Old 04-11-2021, 10:09 PM
 
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I did ban/restrictions. American citizens in China were, of course, allowed back into the U.S.

Washingtonpost "source?" No, thanks.
The "ban" did nothing. There were no tourists at that time due to obvious reasons. Pretty much no checks let alone quarantine for 100s of thousands coming back from the hot spots.
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Old 04-22-2021, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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The "ban" did nothing. There were no tourists at that time due to obvious reasons. Pretty much no checks let alone quarantine for 100s of thousands coming back from the hot spots.
Wrong. My landlord was in China and had to cut his trip short to come back to the U.S.
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Old 04-22-2021, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There were two sets of numbers floating around. It’s 400,000+ if one includes all 2020 travel. About 40,000 post the restriction.

Far more problematic were the hit spots in Europe.

While the US told arrivals to self quarantine, nothing compelled anyone to do so.
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Old 05-01-2021, 06:40 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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I'm considering moving to Canada to be honest... Calgary would be a solid place to live.
Another one.

Aren't you a dude who's always complaining about liberals? Hope you know that Canada's more liberal, overall, than the US is. By US conservative (or libertarian) standards, it's "Marxist."
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Old 05-01-2021, 07:27 PM
 
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Careful now.

Remember when your country was an example of what not to do during a pandemic.

No one called you what you just said, but they did call your president and his inactions that.
Given the posting history of that poster, I don’t think that you were replying above to a serious statement , but rather one meant to mock Trump supporters.
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