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Old 04-16-2021, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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And they want to ensure we never reach herd immunity so they can maintain lockdown.
Fauci refused to give any population figures in the Senate hearing to explain when that level of herd immunity will be. He also would not say what the number on the the daily tracking numbers would be, when we were no longer in a crisis situation. My guess is never, because they will always attempt to move the goal posts, and kick the ball up field to lengthen the tyranny.

 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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FYI You cannot have an abortion in that late of a stage of pregnancy. ONLY if there's a serious threat to the mother or the baby has severe medical issues.
Don't try to manipulate my comments. Was I citing any laws? No.


I was pointing out the mind set of the fanatical abortionists. They truly want the power to kill babies in the ninth month, while they baby's face is still inside the mother and it's feet are kicking outside. There is no "health of the mother" concerns when they induce labor and bring the baby out in breach, so they can kill it before it takes a breath.
 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Way up high
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Don't try to manipulate my comments. Was I citing any laws? No.


I was pointing out the mind set of the fanatical abortionists. They truly want the power to kill babies in the ninth month, while they baby's face is still inside the mother and it's feet are kicking outside. There is no "health of the mother" concerns when they induce labor and bring the baby out in breach, so they can kill it before it takes a breath.
What are you babbling about??

Start a new thread if you want to get on that train..
 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Fauci refused to give any population figures in the Senate hearing to explain when that level of herd immunity will be. He also would not say what the number on the the daily tracking numbers would be, when we were no longer in a crisis situation. My guess is never, because they will always attempt to move the goal posts, and kick the ball up field to lengthen the tyranny.
He refused because it is impossible to derive such figures. If he gives a figure and it is not precisely what actually happens he will be accused of lying. He cannot win.

If he said, "By July 4" but it did not happen until July 5, he would be accused of lying. If he said 200 cases per day and it leveled out at 205, he would be accused of lying.

What it boils down to is people having unreasonable expectations of what he is able to predict.
 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:47 PM
 
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Currently the CDC says one thing and Fauci is saying another.

I got the J&J shot and J&J still says 28 days for full protection. You only get partial after 14 days. They have not changed that; the CDC did on their own.
It might not be mentioned, but the overall immunity from vaccination occurs gradually over the days and weeks post-vaccination. Mine was the Moderna, and at that time 14 days was the number. As new data comes it it would not surprise me to find that the numbers change.
 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:47 PM
 
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He refused because it is impossible to derive such figures. If he gives a figure and it is not precisely what actually happens he will be accused of lying. He cannot win.

If he said, "By July 4" but it did not happen until July 5, he would be accused of lying. If he said 200 cases per day and it leveled out at 205, he would be accused of lying.

What it boils down to is people having unreasonable expectations of what he is able to predict.
Kinda like you believing the "vaccines" could not have serious side effects down the line??
 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:51 PM
 
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Kinda like you believing the "vaccines" could not have serious side effects down the line??
Yeah, funny how it only works in favor of the vaccines, isn't it.

We can't predict XYZ!!!

But all experimental vaccines are safe to roll out to the population ... except the ones we have to halt because of side effects.
 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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Kinda like you believing the "vaccines" could not have serious side effects down the line??
Serious side effects were inevitable given the urgency and number of people needing to be vaccinated where time is of the essence. IMO, and my experience dates back to the 1976 Swine Flu vaccination debacle, we have had miraculous success already. And with remarkably low vaccine related misadventures.
 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:53 PM
 
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Serious side effects were inevitable given the urgency and number of people needing to be vaccinated where time is of the essence. IMO, and my experience dates back to the 1976 Swine Flu vaccination debacle, we have had miraculous success already. And with remarkably low vaccine related misadventures.
Only time will tell....
 
Old 04-16-2021, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Fauci refused to give any population figures in the Senate hearing to explain when that level of herd immunity will be. He also would not say what the number on the the daily tracking numbers would be, when we were no longer in a crisis situation. My guess is never, because they will always attempt to move the goal posts, and kick the ball up field to lengthen the tyranny.
It's funny though because Fauci is on record giving those numbers.

Early in 2020, he said herd immunity percentage as 60-70%.

Later in 2020, he said 70-75%.

His most recent number on record is 75-85%.

And THEN he said he really doesn't know but his gut feeling says 90%.

I'm completely over Fauci.
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