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Old 04-15-2021, 07:26 PM
 
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This is interesting, another new update: Blood clots as prevalent with Pfizer and Moderna vaccine as with AstraZeneca's: report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...?ocid=msedgntp
Thank you for the link! Yet no one in the US has paused Moderna or Pfizer's vaccine.

 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:31 PM
 
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I agree with you.

But it's funny that you bring the bolded up. Another interesting perspective is that for the vast majority, covid is not a death sentence. Millions and millions of people have contracted it and recovered.
I agree with you. And millions of lives will be saved by the vaccines.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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This is interesting, another new update: Blood clots as prevalent with Pfizer and Moderna vaccine as with AstraZeneca's: report

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...?ocid=msedgntp
... the article says you have a greater chance of getting that specific clot condition with covid than the vax.

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In both cases, the risk of getting CVT is much higher for those who get COVID-19 than those for get vaccinated.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Medical errors kill about 250K people a year.
No, they do not.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/medical-errors-2020/

The study that derived that number - by extrapolating from a small number of deaths without regard to preventability - was even criticized in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ath-criticized

The number is not even plausible.

https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139/rr-54

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One has to keep in perspective that millions upon millions of lives are saved by conventional medicine.
My wife and I'd be long since dead if it were not for modern medical miracles.
Anecdotally:

Son #1: Childhood leukemia cured.
Son #2: Incarcerated inguinal hernia, treated with outpatient surgery.
Granddaughter: Umbilical cord problem during labor, Cesarean section resulted in her safe delivery.
Me: Small bowel obstruction, cured with surgery.
Even DH: Appendicitis as a child, cured with surgery.
My father: Had emergency coronary artery bypass surgery. He was having an almost certain to be fatal heart attack. Lived many years after.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:37 PM
 
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Thank you for the link! Yet no one in the US has paused Moderna or Pfizer's vaccine.
Way too many young deaths associated with the vaccine for my taste(keep scrolling down), many after the 2nd jab.

If the UK was able to stop 96% of their covid death with 1 shot to the high risk, why use the 2nd shot and why should anyone not high risk take it?
 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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So it's WRONG a lot of the time.
That means that nothing scientific should be believed because something scientific was wrong in the past?
 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Well this was some unfortunate timing ...

https://twitter.com/MelanieMusey/sta...-vaccinated%2F

(Video of the head of Denmark’s medical agency collapsed during an announcement of the discontinuation of astra zeneca in the link)
 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:46 PM
 
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Thank you for the link! Yet no one in the US has paused Moderna or Pfizer's vaccine.
Because Moderna is Tony Fauci's favored child. Something awful would have to happen for them to do anything about Moderna.

And yet, Moderna specifically has been implicated in a SLEW of rare and sometimes serious side effects. Within the first month of use, 36 people suffered from a rare condition after taking the Moderna jab:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajh.26132
 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:48 PM
 
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I agree with you. And millions of lives will be saved by the vaccines.
Do you receive some sort of commission or other incentives for the promotion of, or sales if these inoculations?

Just checking.
 
Old 04-15-2021, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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No, they do not.

https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/medical-errors-2020/

The study that derived that number - by extrapolating from a small number of deaths without regard to preventability - was even criticized in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ath-criticized

The number is not even plausible.

https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i2139/rr-54



Anecdotally:

Son #1: Childhood leukemia cured.
Son #2: Incarcerated inguinal hernia, treated with outpatient surgery.
Granddaughter: Umbilical cord problem during labor, Cesarean section resulted in her safe delivery.
Me: Small bowel obstruction, cured with surgery.
Even DH: Appendicitis as a child, cured with surgery.
My father: Had emergency coronary artery bypass surgery. He was having an almost certain to be fatal heart attack. Lived many years after.
I wasn't speaking to you.

I was speaking to an actual doctor.

Bye.
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