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Old 04-23-2021, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Inland FL
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African nations are going to see the worst of this.
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Old 04-23-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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In the third world, no one is going to have any real idea of the total impact. How may people who die of Covid in India will every actually be recorded as such. I've heard a number of around 25%. The same could be said of most African countries. Most will not die in hospital after getting tested. Most will die in villages and get buried / cremated with no official recognition.
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Old 04-23-2021, 11:02 AM
 
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This a second wave in India (not the first time it was hit.)
99.5% survival rate is survival. It's not the same quality of life prior to infection. There are long term effects of this virus that could lead to life long issues. The "long haulers" are also being studied and it's showing a higher mortality rate for them for all age groups and all levels of symptomatic infection against population means. We are only a year and a half into this thing and we're seeing the start of chronic issues already.
Yes, we all have to learn to live with this thing. Going about our lives normally leads to more mutations. I have never been for lockdowns, but we do need to be sapient in our interactions.
Stay home all you want. The normal world isn't going to much longer.

I'm sorry.
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Old 04-23-2021, 11:13 AM
 
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8.4 million Indians die each year. That’s 25,000 a day.

So if thousands die each day “with” Covid, are we sure they weren’t gonna die anyway?

We are over a year into this thing and nobody really understands the numbers.

In the US, 78% of the bad outcomes were due to multiple co-morbidities per person, which means we don’t really know if Covid killed them, or something else.

The other 22% represent a bad flu year.
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Old 04-23-2021, 11:14 AM
 
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8.4 million Indians die each year. That’s 25,000 a day.

So if thousands die each day “with” Covid, are we sure they weren’t gonna die anyway?

We are over a year into this thing and nobody really understands the numbers.

In the US, 78% of the bad outcomes were due to multiple co-morbidities per person, which means we don’t really know if Covid killed them, or something else.

The other 22% represent a bad flu year.
Bingo. The left counts a sky diver whose parachute failed to open and happened to also have covid as a "covid death."

Wild stuff. Keep people in fear!
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Old 04-23-2021, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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India is still managing to do 2.5 million vaccine shots a day. That rate isn’t fast enough for their population but it is better than many other poorer countries and should over time bring things under control.
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Social distancing, masks and the vaccine will help us get back to normal, India ignored all the science and that is why they are running over 300,000 cases a day. The more contagious variant has something to do with their problem but it's mostly ignoring the science.
Fauci is not science. He guesses and is always WRONG!



Fauci didn't even use common sense which is half the battle.
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:08 PM
 
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Show me an isolate of the original Covid 19 and an isolate of this supposed mutant variant. Then compare them and explain the differences scientifically.

Show me that the PCR test labs that produce results are clean, effective and machinery is calibrated and operational/ capable of producing accurate results.

Run PCR tests on random samples of sealed/ unused swabs distributed for use in the hot spots and publish results. The Indian government has had difficulty procuring surplus test kits from other countries which has resulted it the manufacturing of their own self-test at home kits. Are these home grown kits manufactured to specifications consistent with detection range in the PCR testing process?

This is how masks are, at least in this case, made in India. Maybe you have a box at home.

They can get a lot of global regulatory mileage out of a 'Mutant Killer Virus Variant Out of Control' fear campaign. If so many outlets are reporting it as true, I'm just asking they prove it.
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:20 PM
 
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Show me an isolate of the original Covid 19 and an isolate of this supposed mutant variant. Then compare them and explain the differences scientifically.

Show me that the PCR test labs that produce results are clean, effective and machinery is calibrated and operational/ capable of producing accurate results.

Run PCR tests on random samples of sealed/ unused swabs distributed for use in the hot spots and publish results. The Indian government has had difficulty procuring surplus test kits from other countries which has resulted it the manufacturing of their own self-test at home kits. Are these home grown kits manufactured to specifications consistent with detection range in the PCR testing process?

This is how masks are, at least in this case, made in India. Maybe you have a box at home.

They can get a lot of global regulatory mileage out of a 'Mutant Killer Virus Variant Out of Control' fear campaign. If so many outlets are reporting it as true, I'm just asking they prove it.
Hell yes. the longer this goes, the more money the teachers' unions get too!

And those "PPP" funds keep pouring in!
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Old 04-23-2021, 12:21 PM
 
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Bingo. The left counts a sky diver whose parachute failed to open and happened to also have covid as a "covid death."

Wild stuff. Keep people in fear!
Not the Left per se, But left-infected government bodies and administrations at WHO, CDC, HHS, Federal and State Hospital boards ALL counted failed parachutes, shotgun suicides, hit by bus, etc. as Covid deaths so long as they tested positive within 60-days of death or they were (yes really), suspected to have had Covid by the person filling out the paperwork or as directed by a medical professional.

Not sure if this was to amplify the fear campaign or just to obtain additional federal funding for managing the disposition of corpses that had passed through their facilities. Probably a bit of both.
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