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Old 05-02-2021, 05:03 PM
 
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/\ /\ So the empty-handed and tiny Ashli Babbitt was deliberately shot in broad daylight for ‘trespassing’?

I think the shooter claimed he didn’t know the other (and unconcerned) cops were on the immediate scene and also didn’t know the VIPs behind him had already exited the hallway and building. (Sort of the SGT Schultz defense.) So he shot her (he never claimed he felt personally threaded by the empty handed and tiny Ashli Babbitt).

Could readily see the Babbit’s prevailing in civil court. Or settling.

 
Old 05-02-2021, 05:05 PM
 
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Ashli Babbitt’s family announces lawsuit against U.S. Capitol Police…

I think Benedict Arnold's family should sue too.
 
Old 05-02-2021, 09:07 PM
 
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[quote=Quick Commenter;60956031]/\ /\ So the empty-handed and tiny Ashli Babbitt was deliberately shot in broad daylight for ‘trespassing’?

I think the shooter claimed he didn’t know the other (and unconcerned) cops were on the immediate scene and also didn’t know the VIPs behind him had already exited the hallway and building. (Sort of the SGT Schultz defense.) So he shot her (he never claimed he felt personally threaded by the empty handed and tiny Ashli Babbitt).

Could readily see the Babbit’s prevailing in civil court. Or settling.[/QUOTE]

They breached the capitol while it was in session. They climbed walls and broke doors and windows to get in to overturn the results of the election. She was unfortunately a casualty of this insurrection because they were all told to stop and no one did. But she was the first to climb through. This was her own doing. There will be no court settlement because she was the one at fault.
 
Old 05-02-2021, 09:37 PM
 
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If she had been shot in the back running away from the scenes of her crimes, we could argue that there was undue force, over reaction.

But an officer being crushed by a mob, shooting to protect himself. Gosh even if it wasn't a cop -- don't you all support that stand your ground thing.
 
Old 05-03-2021, 01:15 AM
 
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If she had been shot in the back running away from the scenes of her crimes, we could argue that there was undue force, over reaction.

But an officer being crushed by a mob, shooting to protect himself. Gosh even if it wasn't a cop -- don't you all support that stand your ground thing.
They do when it is convenient for them. But you and I know better. The officer wasn't only shooting to protect himself; he was shooting to protect a branch of the US government, and democracy itself from mob rule.
 
Old 05-03-2021, 01:52 AM
 
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Ashli Babbitt’s family announces lawsuit against U.S. Capitol Police…

I think Benedict Arnold's family should sue too.
You get the ignorant hyperbole award for today.

Congrats.
 
Old 05-03-2021, 01:53 AM
 
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But an officer being crushed by a mob, shooting to protect himself. Gosh even if it wasn't a cop -- don't you all support that stand your ground thing.
You know that didn't happen right?

Just watch the video already. You will be relieved to know they presented no threat, just as the cops right beside them assessed.
 
Old 05-03-2021, 02:16 AM
 
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If she had been shot in the back running away from the scenes of her crimes, we could argue that there was undue force, over reaction.

But an officer being crushed by a mob, shooting to protect himself. Gosh even if it wasn't a cop -- don't you all support that stand your ground thing.
Sounds rather dramatic.

Reminds me of the dramatic descriptions of Trump supporters bashing in the skull of a cop with a fire extinguisher while murdering him.
 
Old 05-03-2021, 02:36 AM
 
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Confused. Support your local police, but when a mob attacks the US Capitol Police, no biggie. Stroke, just a coincidence.
 
Old 05-03-2021, 03:08 AM
 
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Confused. Support your local police, but when a mob attacks the US Capitol Police, no biggie. Stroke, just a coincidence.
You're not confused. You even went to the effort to build a strawman argument.
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