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But what's shocking as an American, even one who's been to Canada many times, is how willingly people there accept bad policy based on no science.
It may surprise you, but my opinion is that there is too much science in one area, and not enough in another.
Pretty much every day, we hear from a provincial Minister of Health, always a physician, with an MD degree. Here in Alberta, it's often our Minister of Health, but we also get other provinces' Ministers of Health on the news. These people are always MDs, as I said; they have studied at medical school and practiced medicine. Their qualifications as to human biology, physiology, immunology, et ceteraology () are not in question. They preach hard science--not "no science," as you attest; and their science is pretty good, if this layperson's opinion means anything.
But not once have the super-qualified in science medical doctors mentioned the psychological cost. I had to speak with my ex-wife the other day on the phone--she now lives in another province, and I had to speak with her on a matter that does not involve the virus. But she's a medical professional (a doctor, no less) with a bachelor's, a master's, and a doctorate, and we got to chatting about various things, and the virus came up.
Now, understand, her bachelor's degree is in psychology. And she mentioned that the provinces with their lockdowns, are taking the biologically-sound-but-unpsychological approach. She said that people have an instinctive need to gather, for whatever reason. Birth of a baby, funeral for Uncle Joe, Christmas, Thanksgiving, graduation from high school--you cannot stop people from gathering on important occasions. Even if it's not an occasion, she said that people instinctively need other people, and the biologically-sound-while-forgetting-basic-human-instinct approach preventing them from being with other people, will end in failure, as people will find ways to get around such a rule.
But not once have the super-qualified in science medical doctors mentioned the psychological cost.
That's part of it no doubt. San Francisco had more OD deaths than COVID deaths last year, but the virtue signaling fools proudly wearing masks outdoors post-vaccination don't want to confront facts like that. The additional problem is the super-qualified in science didn't know what to do with a new virus, and ended up prognosticating and predicting, and their projections were very wrong in many cases. Fauci, super smart about viruses, not so good at predicting what the result of a policy will be, stuttered and stumbled when asked why Texas cases dropped after the mask mandate was lifted there. Science also needs data, and too many scientists missed that part of the equation.
But to your point, my relatives in Toronto are losing their minds.
Perth, Western Australia last week had a 3 day lockdown and have now implemented mandatory masks because ONE case was detected. Yes, that's right, one single case in a city of more than 2million people.
You may not be surprised to hear it is a left wing Premier (Gov) who has enjoyed closing borders against medical advice ahead of his re-election campaign. The people lapped it up.
Perth, Western Australia last week had a 3 day lockdown and have now implemented mandatory masks because ONE case was detected. Yes, that's right, one single case in a city of more than 2million people.
Of course, we Canadians are de facto prevented from travelling anywhere at the moment, but Perth is a city I've visited before (a few times), and one I'd like to return to. I enjoyed Perth Zoo, which had animals I'd never see in Canadian zoos; Hay Street; Hillary's Boat Harbour; and horse racing at Belmont Park. Renting a bike to explore King's Park was fun too.
I hope that travel opens up between Canada and Australia so I can visit Perth again. It's a nice city.
I strongly agree the lockdowns don't work in Canada,
Then please provide an explanation for their low cases and deaths, low in real numbers, low in per capita, and low in densely populated areas. Lower than USA, anyway - please explain.
I strongly agree the lockdowns don't work in Canada,
Then please provide an explanation for their low cases and deaths, low in real numbers, low in per capita, and low in densely populated areas. Lower than USA, anyway - please explain.
Cases and deaths in Canada are now HIGHER than in the USA, per capita.
Spoke to my uncle in Toronto this morning, and the Canadian part of my family are going out of their minds with overblown lockdowns. Here in California, we've had to deal with the unscientific whims of a narcissistic, power hungry Governor. But padlocked basketball nets are a whole new level of stupidity.
The Canadian shutdown is the reason housing prices are up.
That's because a huge portion of lumber comes from Canada. And prices have tripled since last year. When Canada opens their lumber mills back up, it is expected that prices for lumber will rapidly fall, and new home prices will become more competitive.
The bad side is, buyers of 2020 and even now will feel that they paid too much. It may be years - or never - before they get their money back. Bubble?......... Maybe. Depends on how severe it all is.
The USA leads the entire world by miles and miles in immigration requests. THAT'S the only "survey" that really matters. People voting with their feet.
Yup. A lot more people immigrate from Canada to the US than the other way around. Here in the Bay Area, we get Canadians with science/tech backgrounds escaping low wages and limited opportunities in Canada, which raises just $3 billion/year in VC compared to over $100 billion in the US. Seriously, they all complain that if they stayed in Canada, their choice is university or another university because there's so little tech/biotech commercialization there.
Of course the response doesn't make sense. The lockdowns aren't about the virus... As soon as you realize that, the confusion ends and the real concern begins, because that's the point at which you realize just what's taking place and that nothing's going to stop it.
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) are not in question. They preach hard science--not "no science," as you attest; and their science is pretty good, if this layperson's opinion means anything.
