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Old 04-30-2021, 01:47 PM
 
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Old 04-30-2021, 01:48 PM
 
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okay. what is the 'compelling state interest' in discriminating against white farmers?
Racial equity, the state must make sure everyone not white always has an equal or, preferably, better outcome than white
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Old 04-30-2021, 01:51 PM
 
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I mean the conservative SCOTUS keeps upholding affirmative action policies so I'm not sure you're right.
You're still not telling us the compelling government interest in giving everyone except white people loan forgiveness. But hey, we'll learn it eventually. I bet it will be a masterpiece of bull$h!t.
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Old 04-30-2021, 01:51 PM
 
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okay. what is the 'compelling state interest' in discriminating against white farmers?
White farmers have had access to advantages that others weren't. USDA policies have resulted in black farmers losing their lands steadily over the generations, while white farmers have gained land, proportionate to their demographic share.

This story isn't new.
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Old 04-30-2021, 01:55 PM
 
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You're still not telling us the compelling government interest in giving everyone except white people loan forgiveness. But hey, we'll learn it eventually. I bet it will be a masterpiece of bull$h!t.
The compelling governmental interest is to end racist policies it helped propagate. That's literally the easiest part of the analysis.

The hard part is the "narrowly tailored" aspect. That's where policies fail in courts.
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Old 04-30-2021, 01:55 PM
 
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White farmers have had access to advantages that others weren't. USDA policies have resulted in black farmers losing their lands steadily over the generations, while white farmers have gained land, proportionate to their demographic share.

This story isn't new.
So how about the Alaskan Native and Pacific Islander farmers? I read about ten paragraphs of that article that you posted, and it hasn't proven what you said yet. I'm betting that it never does.
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Old 04-30-2021, 01:57 PM
 
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White farmers have had access to advantages that others weren't. USDA policies have resulted in black farmers losing their lands steadily over the generations, while white farmers have gained land, proportionate to their demographic share.

This story isn't new.
i can't read that article, apparently i've already had my 3 free ones. i find it difficult to accept that the best answer to racism is .... wait for it...

racism.

don't you?
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Old 04-30-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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The compelling governmental interest is to end racist policies it helped propagate. That's literally the easiest part of the analysis.

The hard part is the "narrowly tailored" aspect. That's where policies fail in courts.
If you want to end racist policies, why not.....end racist policies? What does this law have to do with that?
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Old 04-30-2021, 01:59 PM
 
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So how about the Alaskan Native and Pacific Islander farmers? I read about ten paragraphs of that article that you posted, and it hasn't proven what you said yet. I'm betting that it never does.
Agree. Disparate outcome doesn't prove racial discrimination. Current USDA rules are racially discriminatory toward whites on their face.
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Old 04-30-2021, 02:00 PM
 
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Why are these good conservative farmers not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps on their own instead of counting on a government welfare program to help them out? Weird.
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