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Your claim of "deputizing the public" is a complete fallacy. Is the public deputized when they sue for this, that, and everything else in a civil court case? No. Cut the over-emotional drama.
The poster who used the phrase deputizing the public was being quite polite in choosing her words and IMO, if anything, they were understated at that. Texas set up a sanctioned atmosphere of vigilantism with a bounty system, encouraging others to essentially spy on and turn in women and those who help them for $10,000.
Texas’s new antiabortion law combines the GOP's viciousness of full bore abortion bans and their base's passion for bullying and harassment.
This law, the strictest abortion ban in the nation, which restrains the reproductive lives of Texas women, by random passersby, is not only an atrocious assault on all women, it is an assault on health care providers and on anyone who helps a woman, in any way. It is yet another assault on basic human rights and on our Constitution, in these United States of America.
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The poster who used the phrase deputizing the public was being quite polite in choosing her words and IMO, if anything, they were understated at that. Texas set up a sanctioned atmosphere of vigilantism with a bounty system, encouraging others to spy on and turn in women for $10,000.
I call BS on that. How would anyone even know who's pregnant and how far along they are?
I call BS on that. How would anyone even know who's pregnant and how far along they are?
They probably won't unless the woman tells them or they are the father.
But, setting aside how repugnant and antithetical to American values the snitch part of the bill is, it effectively bans most abortions because the health care provider is not going to provide the abortion and set themselves up for a lawsuit.
That being said, I'm sure there will be opportunists who figure out how to sue when the abortion in question is none of their business.
No matter how many ignorant arguments, religious opinions and partisan views are twisted, debated and spewed, abortions are a Constitutional right, affirmed by Roe v Wade in 1973.
Decisions about whether to choose adoption, end a pregnancy, or continue a pregnancy should be made by a pregnant person with the counsel of their family, their faith, and their health care provider. Politicians and the public should not be involved in anyone’s personal medical decisions about their reproductive health or pregnancy. And religious leaders would be wise to remember our nation is not a theocracy.
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They probably won't unless the woman tells them or they are the father.
But, setting aside how repugnant and antithetical to American values the snitch part of the bill is, it effectively bans most abortions because the health care provider is not going to provide the abortion and set themselves up for a lawsuit.
That being said, I'm sure there will be opportunists who figure out how to sue when the abortion in question is none of their business.
Again, how would anyone know who's pregnant or how far along they are? Isn't that info most women keep to themselves, especially if they plan on getting an abortion? Or is it public knowledge when any woman is x-weeks pregnant but she doesn't want the baby so she's getting an abortion?
No matter how many ignorant arguments, religious opinions and partisan views are twisted, debated and spewed, abortions are a constitutional right, affirmed by Roe v Wade in 1973.
There is no Constitutional Right to abortion just as there is no Constitutional Right to any other form of healthcare. The Constitutional Right protected in Roe v. Wade is the 4th Amendment Right to the privacy of one's health status, health records, and the doctor-patient relationship.
That, incidentally, ties in to my questions to those who are irrationally screaming with their hair on fire over the Texas law: How would anyone know who's pregnant or how far along they are? Isn't that info most women keep to themselves, especially if they plan on getting an abortion? Or is it public knowledge when any woman is x-weeks pregnant but she doesn't want the baby so she's getting an abortion?
Again, how would anyone know who's pregnant or how far along they are? Isn't that info most women keep to themselves, especially if they plan on getting an abortion? Or is it public knowledge when any woman is x-weeks pregnant but she doesn't want the baby so she's getting an abortion?
Clearly you've never come across any of the myriad anti-choice zealots who want to shut down women's access to reproductive clinics and medical care. You know, agitators and activists whose sole desire is to fight against the law of the land that grants women access to a full range of reproductive health care — including safe, legal abortion.
These supposed right-to life folks have now been unleashed by the state of Texas to ante up their bullying, intimidation and menace. If you don't think this law gives those types of folks free reign to legally do their criminal work you have not been paying attention during the last 40+ years.
Clearly you've never come across any of the myriad anti-choice zealots who want to shut down women's access to reproductive clinics and medical care. You know, agitators and activists whose sole desire is to fight against the law of the land that grants women access to a full range of reproductive health care — including safe, legal abortion.
These supposed right-to life folks have now been unleashed by the state of Texas to ante up their bullying, intimidation and menace. If you don't think this law gives those types of folks free reign to legally do their criminal work you have not been paying attention during the last 40+ years.
You didn't answer the questions; you just spewed hate. So, again... How would anyone know who's pregnant or how far along they are? Isn't that info most women keep to themselves, especially if they plan on getting an abortion? Or is it public knowledge when any woman is x-weeks pregnant but she doesn't want the baby so she's getting an abortion?
Clearly you've never come across any of the myriad anti-choice zealots who want to shut down women's access to reproductive clinics and medical care. You know, agitators and activists whose sole desire is to fight against the law of the land that grants women access to a full range of reproductive health care — including safe, legal abortion.
These supposed right-to life folks have now been unleashed by the state of Texas to ante up their bullying, intimidation and menace. If you don't think this law gives those types of folks free reign to legally do their criminal work you have not been paying attention during the last 40+ years.
I don’t see that anybody is attempting to rob Texas women of reproductive healthcare. They are attempting to mitigate the use of abortion as birth control.
I do not support this law, but I don’t support mass hysteria, either. Watching gay men, senior citizens, and other non-birthers freak out over abortion isn’t exactly “keeping decisions private”. It’s just the next thing to enjoy outrage porn over.
Again, how would anyone know who's pregnant or how far along they are? Isn't that info most women keep to themselves, especially if they plan on getting an abortion? Or is it public knowledge when any woman is x-weeks pregnant but she doesn't want the baby so she's getting an abortion?
First, I don't know what information a vigilante Texan has to provide initially in a law suit. Do you? It's not clear if they have to provide all the info recorded by a health care provider that serves as their defense or if they can just make the allegation and the court requires the provider to provide the info during a discovery process.
But, assuming they have to have the info., there are situations readily apparent. A father or grandparents could sue to stop a pending abortion for example.
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