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Old 09-08-2021, 02:49 PM
 
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I read an interesting article yesterday about what is considered the "heartbeat."
https://www.livescience.com/65501-fe...explained.html

"But what exactly do we mean when we talk about a "fetal heartbeat" at six weeks of pregnancy? Although some people might picture a heart-shaped organ beating inside a fetus, this is not the case.

Rather, at six weeks of pregnancy, an ultrasound can detect "a little flutter in the area that will become the future heart of the baby," said Dr. Saima Aftab, medical director of the Fetal Care Center at Nicklaus Children's Hospital in Miami. This flutter happens because the group of cells that will become the future "pacemaker" of the heart gain the capacity to fire electrical signals, she said."
Yes its a bill that distorts medical science to invoke an emotional response by calling it a heart beat and pandering to the ignorant Republican base.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:49 PM
 
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No, Hobby Lobby fought so they didn't have to pay for it. Employees are still able to buy some condoms and spermicide on their own - cheap enough. If they want to spring for something more advanced, that's their option as well.
Yet they were happy to pay for viagra and vasectomies.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hobby...agra_n_5543916
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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No, Hobby Lobby fought so they didn't have to pay for it. Employees are still able to buy some condoms and spermicide on their own - cheap enough. If they want to spring for something more advanced, that's their option as well.
You don’t even need a doctor visit any longer to get an Rx for birth control, implants, and the ring!!!

You can discreetly order it online and pay $7.00 a month … no insurance required!

Ladies, come ON!!!

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This is just a few of the MANY online pharmacies that fill birth control orders with no insurance or doctor visit required. Google “birth control”. The options are vast.
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Old 09-08-2021, 02:58 PM
 
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That's because they're only 0.6% of all abortions. 98.3% of all abortions are for the sake of convenience, only.

Convenience. Valued by the pro-abortion contingent over human life. Think very carefully about that.
You have absolutely no way of knowing this and the stats you repeat ad nauseum are flawed.

If a woman has an abortion within the timeframes allowed by law, she does not need to say she was raped and in fact in most cases women don't need to give a reason they want an abortion.

You stats are practically meaningless.
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Old 09-08-2021, 03:02 PM
 
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Isn't anybody concerned about the implications of this law beyond access to abortion?
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Old 09-08-2021, 03:06 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You have absolutely no way of knowing this and the stats you repeat ad nauseum are flawed.
No, they are not flawed. They're from the Guttmacher Institute (a creation of Planned Parenthood) and from state health/statistics agencies that report the relevant statistics.
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Old 09-08-2021, 03:59 PM
 
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Isn't anybody concerned about the implications of this law beyond access to abortion?
I am. It's a repugnant feature of the law.

If allowed to stand, I believe others will find nefarious ways to use it on their pet issues.

As a Republican, I believe it will significantly harm the Republican party.........mainly because of the stench it will leave even if overturned.
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Old 09-08-2021, 04:02 PM
 
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No, they are not flawed. They're from the Guttmacher Institute (a creation of Planned Parenthood) and from state health/statistics agencies that report the relevant statistics.
Now you are misrepresenting the Guttmacher info. lol.

The numbers do not tell the whole story.

For example, a woman telling the story that she is having an abortion because she already has children she cant take care of because of poverty and/or she has an unreliable or nonexistent father for her children is not inconvenience.

Plenty of other examples like that that are counted as "elective" but are not about inconvenience.
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Old 09-08-2021, 04:11 PM
 
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Now you are misrepresenting the Guttmacher info. lol.
No, I am not. I posted the link. You can do the research if you care to.

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For example, a woman telling the story that she is having an abortion because she already has children she cant take care of because of poverty and/or she has an unreliable or nonexistent father for her children is not inconvenience.
It is NOT rape, incest, risk to maternal life, risk to maternal health, or a fetal health issue. It is an inconvenience, just like it's an inconvenience when a car has a flat tire when the owner has to go to work and the owner can't fix it because of poverty and he/she doesn't have a partner or friend who can fix it. Inconvenience.

Stop making lame excuses for prioritizing convenience over human life. That's just sick.
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Old 09-08-2021, 04:16 PM
 
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Life is the only answer.

The end.
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