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Old 02-15-2022, 08:23 PM
 
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For that matter, the actual racist beef with Jews has nothing to do with race. The irritation with the Jews is that the Jews literally imagine themselves as superior beings and the "chosen people of god". While the Jews got rich as merchants and through usury, and used their wealth at the expense of the goyim.

The Jews believe god wants them to deceive and exploit the goyim, to use them like cattle. It's why Usury was banned by both the Christians and the Muslims. Muhammad got tired of their crap and tried to run them out of business, even forcing them to pay an additional fee(Jizyah). Which is why nearly all the Jews ran to Europe.

And what did they do there? They continued to pull their crap. Which is why they got kicked out of 109 kingdoms/principalities/countries. Eventually they amassed a large enough fortune that they became the bankers of Kings. Loaning them whatever they needed to carry on their wars, which would then be paid from the spoils of war. I'm sure you've heard the term "War-profiteering".

With the Rothschild fiat banking system, their ability to finance wars made every King of Europe subservient to them, and allowed them to amass an unbelievable fortune. Which they used to buy up and control everything.

I'm sure you're aware of how the Treaty of Versailles forced Germany to pay back the entire war debt from WWI. But who do you think that debt was owed to? Britain and France borrowed money from American bankers to finance their war with the backing of the US government. Thus when Germany paid off the war debt, they were paying predominantly Jewish bankers not only in America, but worldwide. Even Jewish bankers in Germany financed the war against Germany.
Scratch the surface of the racist, and you'll find the Nazi underneath. So depressingly predictable.

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Go read Karl Marx, go read Lysander Spooner, go read Mikhail Bakunin. They all say the same thing.
You forgot Julius Streicher.
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Old 02-16-2022, 12:37 AM
 
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Scratch the surface of the racist, and you'll find the Nazi underneath. So depressingly predictable.
I'm not a Nazi. Neither was Karl Marx, Mikhail Bakunin, or Lysander Spooner. Socialists and anarchists have a long history of antisemitism. Those three men wrote mostly between 1840 and 1880.

If you want to understand why, just read Karl Marx - On the Jewish Question.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/mar...wish-question/

You can even see it in this country right now. Capitalist-loving right-wingers love Israel. Capitalism is Jewish. Always has been. No one is more antisemitic than Muslims. Are they also Nazis?

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"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities... The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews... In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism." - Karl Marx

"Himself a Jew, Marx has around him, in London and France, but especially in Germany, a multitude of more or less clever, intriguing, mobile, speculating Jews, such as Jews are every where: commercial or banking agents, writers, politicians, correspondents for newspapers of all shades, with one foot in the bank, the other in the socialist movement, and with their behinds sitting on the German daily press — they have taken possession of all the newspapers — and you can imagine what kind of sickening literature they produce. Now, this entire Jewish world, which forms a single profiteering sect, a people of blooksuckers, a single gluttonnous parasite, closely and intimately united not only across national borders but across all differences of political opinion — this Jewish world today stands for the most part at the disposal of Marx and at the same time at the disposal of Rothschild. I am certain that Rothschild for his part greatly values the merits of Marx, and that Marx for his part feels instinctive attraction and great respect for Rothschild. This may seem strange. What can there be in common between Communism and the large banks? Oh! The Communism of Marx seeks enormous centralization in the state, and where such exists, there must inevitably be a central state bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, which. speculates on the work of the people, will always find a way to prevail." - Mikhail Bakunin

"The Rothschilds, and that class of money-lenders of whom they are the representatives and agents – men who never think of lending a shilling to their next-door neighbors, for purposes of honest industry, unless upon the most ample security, and at the highest rate of interest – stand ready at all times to lend money in unlimited amounts to those robbers and murderers, who call themselves governments, to be expended in shooting down those who do not submit quietly to being robbed and enslaved.

When these emperors and kings, so-called, have obtained their loans, they proceed to hire and train immense numbers of professional murderers, called soldiers, and employ them in shooting down all who resist their demands for money. And these heads or chiefs are dependent upon the lenders of blood-money for the means to carry on their robberies and murders. They could not sustain themselves a moment but for the loans made to them by these blood-money loan-mongers. And their first care is to maintain their credit with them; for they know their end is come, the instant their credit with them fails. Consequently the first proceeds of their extortions are scrupulously applied to the payment of the interest on their loans.

In addition to paying the interest on their bonds, they perhaps grant to the holders of them great monopolies in banking, like the Banks of England, of France, and of Vienna; with the agreement that these banks shall furnish money whenever, in sudden emergencies, it may be necessary to shoot down more of their people. Perhaps also, by means of tariffs on competing imports, they give great monopolies to certain branches of industry, in which these lenders of blood-money are engaged. They also, by unequal taxation, exempt wholly or partially the property of these loan-mongers, and throw corresponding burdens upon those who are too poor and weak to resist.

Thus it is evident that all these men, who call themselves by the high-sounding names of Emperors, Kings, Sovereigns, Monarchs, Most Christian Majesties, Most Catholic Majesties, High Mightinesses, Most Serene and Potent Princes, and the like, and who claim to rule “by the grace of God,” by “Divine Right” – that is, by special authority from Heaven – are intrinsically not only the merest miscreants and wretches, engaged solely in plundering, enslaving, and murdering their fellow men, but that they are also the merest hangers on, the servile, obsequious, fawning dependents and tools of these blood-money loan-mongers, on whom they rely for the means to carry on their crimes. These loan-mongers, like the Rothschilds, laugh in their sleeves, and say to themselves: These despicable creatures, who call themselves emperors, and kings, and majesties, and most serene and potent princes; who profess to wear crowns, and sit on thrones; who deck themselves with ribbons, and feathers, and jewels; and surround themselves with hired flatterers and lickspittles; and whom we suffer to strut around, and palm themselves off, upon fools and slaves, as sovereigns and lawgivers specially appointed by Almighty God; and to hold themselves out as the sole fountains of honors, and dignities, and wealth, and power – all these miscreants and imposters know that we make them, and use them; that in us they live, move, and have their being; that we require them (as the price of their positions) to take upon themselves all the labor, all the danger, and all the odium of all the crimes they commit for our profit; and that we will unmake them, strip them of their gewgaws, and send them out into the world as beggars, or give them over to the vengeance of the people they have enslaved, the moment they refuse to commit any crime we require of them, or to pay over to us such share of the proceeds of their robberies as we see fit to demand." - Lysander Spooner

"Since trade ignores national boundaries and manufacturers insist on having the world as a market, the flag of the nation must follow him and the doors of the nations which are closed against him must be battered down. Concessions obtained by financiers must be safe-guarded by Ministers of State, even if the sovereignty of an unwilling nation be outraged in the process. Colonies must be obtained or planted in order that no useful corner of the world may be overlooked or left unused." - Woodrow Wilson

"The Whites have carried to these (colonial) people the worst that they could carry: the plagues of the world: materialism, fanaticism, alcoholism, and syphilis. Moreover, since what these people possessed on their own was superior to anything we could give them, they have remained themselves... The sole result of the activity of the colonizers is: they have everywhere aroused hatred." - Adolf Hitler

"Auschwitz meant that six million Jews were killed, and thrown on the waste-heap of Europe, for what they were considered: money-Jews. Finance capital and the banks, the hard core of the system of imperialism and capitalism, had turned the hatred of men against money and exploitation, and against the Jews... Antisemitism is really a hatred of capitalism." - Ulrike Meinhof

"Since we are socialists, we must necessarily also be antisemites because we want to fight against the very opposite: materialism and mammonism… How can you not be an antisemite, being a socialist." - Adolf Hitler
PS: I like to call myself a Jeffersonian.

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Old 02-16-2022, 11:34 AM
 
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PS: I like to call myself a Jeffersonian.
Better than what others call you, I guess.
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Old 02-16-2022, 11:56 AM
 
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Better than what others call you, I guess.
What do they call me? Do you know anything about Thomas Jefferson? What did Thomas Jefferson think about corporations and bankers? What did Thomas Jefferson think about government? Was Thomas Jefferson a Nazi?

I guess I shouldn't ask a liberal who all is a Nazi. Liberals think Donald Trump is a Nazi, the entire Republican Party, and pretty much anyone else who doesn't agree with them.
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