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Old 05-22-2021, 05:54 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Nothing you wrote has any logic.

Man invented a category (species) and invented a rule (different species cannot procreate) and applied it to all animals and subdivided them into many species so they could study them. We easily could have picked another rule, but this one turned out to be very useful to study.

PS

Some procreation can happen between certain species. Some odd examples here and there.
Some but not a lot. The general rule does apply though to the majority of species.
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Old 05-22-2021, 05:56 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Each generation judges history from their own perspective. I'm sure that in 150 years they'll be wondering what we were possibly thinking. Darwin was a product of his time and culture, and had enough difficulty just trying to get the revolutionary concept of evolution accepted. At any rate, the theory of evolution is now the foundation of biology, so he and Wallace deserve full marks for overturning centuries of superstitious dogma. I have to think that a lot of modern ideas on inclusiveness and tolerance only came about because of evolutionary concepts; the idea that we all came from a common origin, and have very similar traits.

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Old 05-23-2021, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Each generation judges history from their own perspective. I'm sure that in 150 years they'll be wondering what we were possibly thinking. Darwin was a product of his time and culture, and had enough difficulty just trying to get the revolutionary concept of evolution accepted. At any rate, the theory of evolution is now the foundation of biology, so he and Wallace deserve full marks for overturning centuries of superstitious dogma. I have to think that a lot of modern ideas on inclusiveness and tolerance only came about because of evolutionary concepts; the idea that we all came from a common origin, and have very similar traits.
To be fair, the bible says we all have a common ancestor(Adam and Eve). And that we divided much more recently than we actually did(6,000 years ago vs 60,000 years ago). In fact, the actual belief is that our most recent ancestor was Noah, and we all descend from Noah's sons.

The height of racism was in the late-19th and early-20th century, and was absolutely a consequence of evolutionary theory. What we call "Eugenics" came from Francis Galton, who was Charles Darwin's cousin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism

The triumph over racism has zero to do with science. In fact, science is constantly reminding us that we're different, and how our genes can show us our race/ancestry, where we come from, specific traits/inclinations, the risk of certain diseases, etc. This will only get more accurate as we learn more about our genes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuQHSKLXu2c

I remember reading this New York Times article like 13 years ago. And scientifically, things have only gotten worse. Which is why the anti-racist propaganda is so constant. Every single day bombarded with it. It's the only way people won't see the truth.

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/us/11dna.html?_r=1

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Old 05-23-2021, 07:30 AM
 
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Nothing you wrote has any logic.

Man invented a category (species) and invented a rule (different species cannot procreate) and applied it to all animals and subdivided them into many species so they could study them. We easily could have picked another rule, but this one turned out to be very useful to study.

PS

Some procreation can happen between certain species. Some odd examples here and there.
So let me see if I got this right.

The names are socially constructed how we describe them is socially constructed. The fact that they can’t reproduce with other species, hybridization and speciation are just process we observed and recorded. They’re not socially constructed. 2+2=4 everywhere in the universe even if “they” don’t call it two, plus, equals or four…

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Old 05-23-2021, 07:37 AM
 
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Define racist and sexist. Are women and men the same? Are races the same?
In science, there are no races. That much is clear in the data.
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:42 AM
 
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To be fair, the bible says we all have a common ancestor(Adam and Eve). And that we divided much more recently than we actually did(6,000 years ago vs 60,000 years ago). In fact, the actual belief is that our most recent ancestor was Noah, and we all descend from Noah's sons.

The height of racism was in the late-19th and early-20th century, and was absolutely a consequence of evolutionary theory. What we call "Eugenics" came from Francis Galton, who was Charles Darwin's cousin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Galton

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism

The triumph over racism has zero to do with science. In fact, science is constantly reminding us that we're different, and how our genes can show us our race/ancestry, where we come from, specific traits/inclinations, the risk of certain diseases, etc. This will only get more accurate as we learn more about our genes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuQHSKLXu2c

I remember reading this New York Times article like 13 years ago. And scientifically, things have only gotten worse. Which is why the anti-racist propaganda is so constant. Every single day bombarded with it. It's the only way people won't see the truth.

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/11/us/11dna.html?_r=1
"The study of genetics has shown there is no way to subdivide human beings genetically. "

"The science of genetics demonstrates that humans cannot be divided into biologically distinct subcategories”
the Human Genome Project has confirmed that the genomes found around the globe are 99.9 percent identical in every person. Hence, the very idea of different “races” is nonsense."
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:49 AM
 
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"The study of genetics has shown there is no way to subdivide human beings genetically. "

"The science of genetics demonstrates that humans cannot be divided into biologically distinct subcategories”
the Human Genome Project has confirmed that the genomes found around the globe are 99.9 percent identical in every person. Hence, the very idea of different “races” is nonsense."
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Fundamentally, understanding disease variants and outcomes is impossible when you use one genetic background as a baseline and compare it to another genetic background that has its own history of environmental, migratory and social changes. To truly understand disease variants and outcomes, we have to create population-specific biobanks. A population-based biobank is a repository consisting of a large collection of biological tissue donated by individuals from the general population who might or might not have a specific disease. Phenotype information and clinical, social and environmental data points can also be collected. These genotype-phenotype population-based databases analyze DNA to help physicians and researchers better understand the genetic determinants of diseases.
https://www.thermofisher.com/blog/be...-and-medicine/

Same species but with enough genetic diversity that medicine requires taking into consideration the lineage of the patient.
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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yeah,it also said aliens from another solar system came to mine gold in Africa,and they impregnate the natives to breed human to work in those mines.
anyone coming from the sky was deemed as god,and god created Adam in its own image,just think ,who is god and where does adam come from?
and if adam looks like a human being,what does god look like?
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Old 05-23-2021, 07:53 AM
 
Location: South Jersey
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Darwin should have been "cancelled" a long time ago, but by real science. The notion that life arose from non-life and "evolved" to all its present complexity is absolutely preposterous and impossible. "Goo to you by way of the zoo" is not real science, and there's no scientific evidence for it, either. Mathematically, it is impossible for chemicals, which have no mind, to form living systems, and form codes of information (DNA) that is far more complex than anything man has ever created.
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Old 05-23-2021, 08:27 AM
 
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^ above two posts illustrate the nonsense that fills the gap when evolution is banished.
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