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Old 05-31-2021, 10:53 AM
 
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If there really is no proof left, it's because the CCP has spent the last 14 months erasing it.
...and just flat out refusing to cooperate

China could release the blood samples for the first original scientists that got sick at the lab....

...of course they won't!
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Old 05-31-2021, 11:08 AM
 
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Just because they have not found the original animal, yet, doesn't mean it's from a lab.

Maybe they are not looking at animals in the right region. There are bats and other coronavirus-infested animals around the world. Even some maritime mammal species have them: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3911666/

I guess just reading the abstract gives you an idea that there are more species to look at...

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Although comparative genome analysis showed that BdCoV HKU22 and BWCoV SW1 should belong to the same species, a major difference was observed in the proteins encoded by their spike (S) genes, which showed only 74.3 to 74.7% amino acid identities. The high ratios of the number of synonymous substitutions per synonymous site (Ks) to the number of nonsynonymous substitutions per nonsynonymous site (Ka) in multiple regions of the genome, especially the S gene (Ka/Ks ratio, 2.5), indicated that BdCoV HKU22 may be evolving rapidly, supporting a recent transmission event to the bottlenose dolphins.
The study above was from 2014.
They might check those maritime theme parks for instance, where dolphins come in contact with humans.
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Old 05-31-2021, 11:15 AM
 
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just because the lab is in China....the scientists doing the work are in China....ground zero is China

...and China flat out not cooperating in any way

Doesn't mean it came from China.........
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Old 05-31-2021, 11:17 AM
 
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Someone suggested a racist motive behind a bio weapon, which is absurd. The Japanese death rate is much higher than that of white countries such as the Netherlands. And the Chinese death rate of about 5% is much higher than the Japanese one.

Hence that accusation is itself racist.
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Old 05-31-2021, 11:23 AM
 
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just because the lab is in China....the scientists doing the work are in China....ground zero is China

...and China flat out not cooperating in any way

Doesn't mean it came from China.........
That is not what the WHO team said. Just yesterday I read from an Australian member who said the Chinese cooperation was at the same level he would expect from Australian colleagues if they were investigating in Australia.

Not confirming what you want to hear is not the same as not collaborating.
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Old 05-31-2021, 12:06 PM
 
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Someone suggested a racist motive behind a bio weapon, which is absurd. The Japanese death rate is much higher than that of white countries such as the Netherlands. And the Chinese death rate of about 5% is much higher than the Japanese one.

Hence that accusation is itself racist.
It was more of an economic weapon that hurt the US far more than China.

How China stands to profit from the coronavirus pandemic
Beijing is closing the economic gap as the US economy shrinks

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...virus-pandemic
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Old 05-31-2021, 12:11 PM
 
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just because the lab is in China....the scientists doing the work are in China....ground zero is China

...and China flat out not cooperating in any way

Doesn't mean it came from China.........
Exactly.

Just because a deadly bat coronavirus emerged adjacent to the worlds largest deadly bat coronavirus research facility does not mean the two are connected.

And just because the Chinese Government frantically erased all the lab notes and silenced all the scientists at that lab does not mean the Chinese are covering something up.

Just because Fauci is a big 'gain of function' virus research guy and the lab was a big virus 'gain of function' practitioner does not mean he is inclined to look the other way.

Just because Chinese military bioweapons research has been intertwined with civilian virus research since the day the State-owned Wuhan Institute of Virology opened in 2017 does not mean some particularly nasty 'gain of function' stuff was going on.

Really, there is nothing to see here.

Something tells me the Chinese government is out in the woods searching for the natural animal host for COVID the same way OJ was out looking for the real killer.
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Old 05-31-2021, 12:17 PM
 
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Yet a year ago we were told they looked at the virus and said no way was it man made.
But now it is ?

Sorry...the guys over at ATS were spot on with this one ...spot on.
ATS is the tin foil hat community.

A few interesting questions I have though is...why the about face ? Why now ? And how did so many get on board so quickly ?
Those are the questions I have.


Mine is: The Duck Billed Platypus has no natural ancestor, does that mean it was created in a lab millions of years ago?
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Old 05-31-2021, 12:19 PM
 
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It was more of an economic weapon that hurt the US far more than China.

How China stands to profit from the coronavirus pandemic
Beijing is closing the economic gap as the US economy shrinks

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...virus-pandemic
The problem with that is that if it had been a bio weapon, the Chinese would never have been so stupid as to release it in their own country, they would have done so in some inconspicuous country far away from China, probably in Europe or Latin America.

If anything it was a lab accident, unfortunately accidents do happen. But again, so far I don't believe in a lab accident.

That fact that the pandemic hit the US economy harder was not China's fault, but due to the poor response in the West in general. Other countries like Australia, New Zealand and Taiwan have done fine.
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Old 05-31-2021, 12:21 PM
 
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Exactly.

Just because a deadly bat coronavirus emerged adjacent to the worlds largest deadly bat coronavirus research facility does not mean the two are connected.

And just because the Chinese Government frantically erased all the lab notes and silenced all the scientists at that lab does not mean the Chinese are covering something up.

Just because Fauci is a big 'gain of function' virus research guy and the lab was a big virus 'gain of function' practitioner does not mean he is inclined to look the other way.

Just because Chinese military bioweapons research has been intertwined with civilian virus research since the day the State-owned Wuhan Institute of Virology opened in 2017 does not mean some particularly nasty 'gain of function' stuff was going on.

Really, there is nothing to see here.

Something tells me the Chinese government is out in the woods searching for the natural animal host for COVID the same way OJ was out looking for the real killer.
When you list coincidences, you might also list the international military games that took place in Wuhan shortly before the start of the pandemic...
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