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Trades trades trades,,when your car is broken down, your plumbing doesn't work or you electric goes all the masters degrees in the world won't help you. Many people look down on the people that are in our trades. They are so important. We need them.
I agree with Bill, college has become mostly a scam. Especially now when there is so much free information online, and you really can learn whatever you want on your own. Do you really need a professor (or graduate student) standing there lecturing?
I got a lot of formal education and it was interesting, because I did most of the learning on my own by reading. I didn't soak up information from professors. And the degrees looked good on my resume. But when I wanted to learn actual job skills, I learned from books and from work experience.
I never paid any tuition, because I had scholarships and assistanceships. I would NOT have gone if I had to pay.
I know that you can go all through formal education, to the PhD level, without really thinking very much. It all depends on the individual and whether they are there to learn or just to get a diploma.
So yes, it's mostly a scam. But how else can employers decide if an inexperienced applicant is serious and hardworking? Well now you can't even tell by their college degrees since, as Bill explained, most of them are just learning how to spot racist micro-aggressions.
There are many jobs where the recruiter wouldn't even consider a candidate without a degree.
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That's because there's a glut of degreed people out there and requiring a degree is an easy, albeit lazy and of questionable value, screening technique. Just because a position "requires" a degree doesn't mean a degree is actually necessary to do the job successfully.
New Rule? Maybe for a single old single guy who lives in his own world....lol.
I grew up in middle Canada, moved to middle USA and raised three kids.
Most definitely the 'go to college' chant that started years ago pushed kids into going to college to get a career. There was a definite focus on academics as opposed to trade skills in schools.
But started with my oldest (33 years old), I did see a shift....more kids going to technical colleges to figure out what they were going to do. By the time my youngest (24 yrs.) hit high school there was a big shift.
That's because there's a glut of degreed people out there and requiring a degree is an easy, albeit lazy and of questionable value, screening technique. Just because a position "requires" a degree doesn't mean a degree is actually necessary to do the job successfully.
This is the problem. The people making those job requirements went through the process of getting degrees. So, they require degrees in turn. "If I had to do they have to do it." It's not about actual skills, it's more of a rite of passage at this point.
Honestly. If I were Cornell, I'd ask Maher to give back his "useless" degree in English and history.
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Originally Posted by Corrie22
Colleges do not even teach you how to learn....much less how to make money
That's on you if you didn't learn anything in college and didn't make any money afterward.
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry
What percent of college graduates end up working in the field of their major?
Answer: 27%
That's not a bad thing. My college education also taught me how to take my degree in journalism and adapt it to other fields. I spent 17 years as a journalist, and for the past 21 have been working in fundraising and communications for nonprofit organizations. I know former teachers who are CEOs, former social workers who are teachers, former accountants who are real estate brokers, etc.
I agree with Bill, college has become mostly a scam. Especially now when there is so much free information online, and you really can learn whatever you want on your own. Do you really need a professor (or graduate student) standing there lecturing?
I got a lot of formal education and it was interesting, because I did most of the learning on my own by reading. I didn't soak up information from professors. And the degrees looked good on my resume. But when I wanted to learn actual job skills, I learned from books and from work experience.
I never paid any tuition, because I had scholarships and assistanceships. I would NOT have gone if I had to pay.
I know that you can go all through formal education, to the PhD level, without really thinking very much. It all depends on the individual and whether they are there to learn or just to get a diploma.
So yes, it's mostly a scam. But how else can employers decide if an inexperienced applicant is serious and hardworking? Well now you can't even tell by their college degrees since, as Bill explained, most of them are just learning how to spot racist micro-aggressions.
Legitimate job and volunteering history, starting as teens through undergraduate internships.
In addition to giving future employers the ability to assess the traits you mentioned, they also impart invaluable life skills such as interpersonal conflict resolution, time management, organization, and teamwork.
Right on, Bill.
If I didn't know better, I'd think he was a conservative.
Maybe he's come to his senses.
In any event, he hits the nail on the head.
I loved that video. It was just so on target!!
Btw, I think Maher is becoming more and more aware of just how crazy most of those on the far left actually are.
In fact, maybe we should have a term for former liberals (such as myself) who have become aware of how crazy many far left views actually are.
Maybe "awakened" for us vs. "woke" for them?
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