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Old 06-08-2021, 02:51 PM
 
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Bill nails it on many fronts..............


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Old 06-08-2021, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Most people with a brain figured this stuff out long ago. But they still shoveled their children off to college (with a few exceptions) because they were told the world is totally different now and you need a college degree to make it. Well, the world is not totally different. If all things are equal, stupid and lazy people will generally struggle, and intelligent, hard working people will have a far greater chance of succeeding. It's the same as it's always been. Of course, as was always the case, your mileage may vary.
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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But those parties man...

JK.

College students are not very smart regardless.
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:07 PM
 
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Colleges do not even teach you how to learn....much less how to make money
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:11 PM
 
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But those parties man...

JK.

College students are not very smart regardless.
That’s not far from the truth though. Parties are one reason why a lot of kids get excited about going to college. That and joining a frat or sorority.
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:15 PM
 
Location: USA
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Right on, Bill.
If I didn't know better, I'd think he was a conservative.
Maybe he's come to his senses.
In any event, he hits the nail on the head.
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Colleges do not even teach you how to learn....much less how to make money

Yes, but with all that debt, it will give you plenty of reasons and motivation to go out and make money. Debt slavery is a tried and true method of forcing people to work, and take on any job that will help them get out of debt. Starting out life with that much (unproductive) debt is a handicap to many people though, especially those who suck at managing money.
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:23 PM
 
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Most people with a brain figured this stuff out long ago. But they still shoveled their children off to college (with a few exceptions) because they were told the world is totally different now and you need a college degree to make it. Well, the world is not totally different. If all things are equal, stupid and lazy people will generally struggle, and intelligent, hard working people will have a far greater chance of succeeding. It's the same as it's always been. Of course, as was always the case, your mileage may vary.

That's dangerous and simply not true. Look, I get you don't value college education, that's fine. It's perfectly ok to look down on colleges. But this idea that having a college degree makes little difference is dangerous and wrong. There are many jobs where the recruiter wouldn't even consider a candidate without a degree.

By all means, work hard. And there are certainly people who got very far without one. But not having a degree limit one's employment options.

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Old 06-08-2021, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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That's dangerous and simply not true. Look, I get you don't value college education, that's fine. It's perfectly ok to look down on colleges. But this idea that having a college degree makes little difference is dangerous and wrong. There are many jobs where the recruiter wouldn't even consider a candidate without a degree.

By all means, work hard. And there are certainly people who got very far without one. But not having a degree limit one's employment options.

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You're assumptions, as usual, are incorrect. Pursuing a college degree can be a very valuable and worthwhile experience. Acquiring a useful degree can afford a young person an advantage in the job market. There is no denying that. But not all degrees are equal. A degree in mathematics, engineering, etc are certainly worth every penny, not to mention the time spent working/studying to earn that degree. Degrees in the infamous "underwater basket weaving" and the likes, not so much.


As Bill Maher pointed out, our nation's young people are all too often pursuing degrees in uselessness. Degrees in nothingness aren't worth the paper they are printed on. A young person would be better served getting 4 years of experience in the job market, instead of going into debt pursuing degrees in foolishness.
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:31 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What percent of college graduates end up working in the field of their major?
Answer: 27%

A total 53.2 million former students say they’re unsure about the value of their degree, part of 39.4% of the 135 million Americans who’ve completed higher education
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