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Must be nice when taxpayers are footing the bill for NINE WEEKS of paid vacation per year!
Meh.
Sweden gives every new mother 480 days of maternal leave. Per child. By law.
With 420 of those days paid for at 80% of normal wage, up to a cap of around $1,000 a day.
Is it nice? I'm sure it is for all of Sweden's new mothers and their families.
480 days allows a mom lots of time to spend with her other kids as well as her newborn, and the pay allows mom and dad to hire a little temp help now and then if it's needed.
480 days is enough time for a baby to grow strong and healthy and off to a good start in life. Swedish moms don't have to be called away from work due to sick babies as much, so I'm pretty sure Sweden's employers probably think the law is OK, even if it is expensive.
The money goes around and comes around. Maybe more will stick around once mom is back at work.
I have no prob with 44 days of vacation. I would if it was all taken at once, but it's not. And sometimes, federal employees don't get the holiday off anyway, if their job is needed.
I live in the high northwest, and even though I knew of Juneteenth, I never knew for sure what it commemorated.
Knowing doesn't affect me much at all, but I'm not stingy; if Juneteenth is an important holiday to other folks, I'm quite happy they get a day off to celebrate it.
Americans should celebrate the days when very important good things happened to our citizens, even if it only happened to some of them.
All of those events have made our homeland what it is. They have all contributed in their ways to our mutual greatness as American citizens.
America is not a blanket, made of only one cloth.
It is a patchwork quilt, made of many different fabrics, cut into many different pieces, and sewn together strongly by our common bonds.
Juneteenth isn't my part of the quilt, but it's still my quilt.
Meh.
Sweden gives every new mother 480 days of maternal leave. Per child. By law.
With 420 of those days paid for at 80% of normal wage, up to a cap of around $1,000 a day.
Is it nice? I'm sure it is for all of Sweden's new mothers and their families.
480 days allows a mom lots of time to spend with her other kids as well as her newborn, and the pay allows mom and dad to hire a little temp help now and then if it's needed.
480 days is enough time for a baby to grow strong and healthy and off to a good start in life. Swedish moms don't have to be called away from work due to sick babies as much, so I'm pretty sure Sweden's employers probably think the law is OK, even if it is expensive.
The money goes around and comes around. Maybe more will stick around once mom is back at work.
I have no prob with 44 days of vacation. I would if it was all taken at once, but it's not. And sometimes, federal employees don't get the holiday off anyway, if their job is needed.
I live in the high northwest, and even though I knew of Juneteenth, I never knew for sure what it commemorated.
Knowing doesn't affect me much at all, but I'm not stingy; if Juneteenth is an important holiday to other folks, I'm quite happy they get a day off to celebrate it.
Americans should celebrate the days when very important good things happened to our citizens, even if it only happened to some of them.
All of those events have made our homeland what it is. They have all contributed in their ways to our mutual greatness as American citizens.
America is not a blanket, made of only one cloth.
It is a patchwork quilt, made of many different fabrics, cut into many different pieces, and sewn together strongly by our common bonds.
Juneteenth isn't my part of the quilt, but it's still my quilt.
Gotta love those "common bonds" when we buy into racial tribalism.
"Then she paid for her lobster with an EBT card and drove off in her Escalade."
Oh, stop. Now I owe you two more rep points.
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?? I know this is an attempt by a liberal to ridicule a conservative, but it doesn’t make sense.
Actually, it was someone with a pretty good bullcrap detector shooting holes in a tired old stereotype that some people refuse to let die.
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Originally Posted by Oldgorilla
You get the job security combined with extremely low pay and decent benefits. The alternate option is to pay government employees a decent wage and remove the semi-guaranteed job security.
All these people whining about government workers getting another holiday could always come work with me in the nonprofit sector: low pay, decent benefits, and no job security.
And the "job security" for government workers is another stereotype that needs to die, because it ain't true no more.
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Originally Posted by paracord
They work for US!
Government work isn't about the benefits.
Why pay the government workers at all, then?
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Originally Posted by paracord
Are you saying they need 44 vacation days in order to attract people?
Not vacation days. PTO. There is a difference. Learn it.
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Originally Posted by TimTheEnchanter
44 days of PTO is high. The average PTO in the U.S. in private industry is around 10 days. That doesn't include 6-10 days federal holidays.
The 44 days includes vacation time, sick time, and holidays. And it's not that unusual or out of line; read the entire thread.
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Originally Posted by Grlzrl
4 weeks of vacation? For ALL federal employees regardless of tenure? Jesus. Explains a lot.
Incorrect, and I doubt Jesus has anything to do with it. 20 days is the average, based on tenure.
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Originally Posted by bluesjuke
It’s 25 more days than I get and that is my PTO and holidays combined.
As the conservative members of this forum are wont to say: Why don't you get a new job, then?
Just to add a bit more clarity, it's not 44 paid "holidays", it's 44 days of paid time off. Some of those are "sick days", vacation, and yes, holidays.
All these people whining about government workers getting another holiday could always come work with me in the nonprofit sector: low pay, decent benefits, and no job security.
And the "job security" for government workers is another stereotype that needs to die, because it ain't true no more.
It is absolutely true. A government worker could walk into their boss's office and do a line of coke in front of them and not get fired. But it is easy for the government to fire a white employee. All the have to do is get a black employee to say the white employee said a racial slur.
So how much vacation days do you folks get? How many paid holidays? How many sick days?
I'm curious as to how this compares to market standards.
I'm not talking small business owners or sole proprietors...I'm talking the norm in the market.
I work part-time, so I do not receive PTO. My husband works for a large American company with about $3B in revenue and about 6k employees. Currently, they have 50 days of PTO between federal/company-specific holidays (20), sick leave (10), vacation days (15), and volunteer days (5). The holidays include additional days around Thanksgiving and Christmas plus four quarterly wellness days. The interesting thing is that everyone gets the same number of days regardless of tenure. A brand-new college grad receives the same 50 days as the VP of Sales whose been in his seat for a decade.
"Before Thursday, federal employees received pay for 10 federal holidays, 13 sick days and 20 vacation days per year on average. Our auditors at OpenTheBooks.com estimate these benefits cost taxpayers $22.6 billion annually."
It is absolutely true. A government worker could walk into their boss's office and do a line of coke in front of them and not get fired. But it is easy for the government to fire a white employee. All the have to do is get a black employee to say the white employee said a racial slur.
LOL. Enough already with this nonsense. Feel free to try doing a line of coke in front of your federal boss, and see how it goes. Let me know if they move for you to be fired, or if they just settle for having you arrested and put in jail.
LOL. Enough already with this nonsense. Feel free to try doing a line of coke in front of your federal boss, and see how it goes. Let me know if they move for you to be fired, or if they just settle for having you arrested and put in jail.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say they could do a line of Coke, but it is true that government, while employing some skilled and useful workers, ALSO keeps on the payroll slackers and incompetents who would never survive in private industry.
I live in the DC area. It’s almost a running joke. A neighbor, pre-COVID, told me he hit the jackpot when he got hired (he is a minority, so easier for him to get hired), and laughed when he told me he only goes into the office twice a week. Another guy I know complained that he had to go in ONCE a week, saying that he “had stuff to do around the house.” Still another told me to call her only during “working hours,” when she’s at home, because the evenings are her free time. (WTH??)
I’m for getting government workers back to work, at LEAST four days a week, and laying off the goof-offs and the screw-ups.
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