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Some people here think federal employees and military should be working like slaves and deserve no sick or vacation time
Most are seeking parity with the private sector. Fed pay used to be less than private sector pay, but FEd jobs were much more secure, so that as the tradeoff.
Now, fed jobs are averaging 1.5 times as much value in total comp package, & the job security is stronger than ever.
It has gotten out of whack, and is in pat why we are $28T in debt. Too many gov't workers costing taxpayers too much money, and all of it growing at an unsustainable rate.
If the feds were not printing Monopoly money, it would have all collapsed by now.
The pensions must go because they are totally unsustainable. There must be a significant headcount reduction too. I'd do the headcount reduction slowly through attrition, and end the pensions today for any new hires, and buy out any pensions <10 years vesting. Honor those >10 years vested, or give them an early buy out option.
Most are seeking parity with the private sector. Fed pay used to be less than private sector pay, but FEd jobs were much more secure, so that as the tradeoff.
Now, fed jobs are averaging 1.5 times as much value in total comp package, & the job security is stronger than ever.
It has gotten out of whack, and is in pat why we are $28T in debt. Too many gov't workers costing taxpayers too much money, and all of it growing at an unsustainable rate.
If the feds were not printing Monopoly money, it would have all collapsed by now.
The pensions must go because they are totally unsustainable. There must be a significant headcount reduction too. I'd do the headcount reduction slowly through attrition, and end the pensions today for any new hires, and buy out any pensions <10 years vesting. Honor those >10 years vested, or give them an early buy out option.
Lower end jobs are typically hight than public sector, secretaries, clerks. Up to about the GS 9 level. Above that level and with 15 plus years in there is a wide disparity in the other direction but generally by then, it is too late to leave. Go to usajobs and look at the gs13 type of jobs.
So how much vacation days do you folks get? How many paid holidays? How many sick days?
I'm curious as to how this compares to market standards.
I'm not talking small business owners or sole proprietors...I'm talking the norm in the market.
I work for a very large corporation and am on salary, exempt from overtime rules. I maxed out my PTO (which includes all the same buckets listed, holidays if I choose to take them, sick days and just plain vacation days) and I get 36 days a year. It took me 15 years of service to get to this point.
Even better, when the federal gov was begging for workers back in the 2000's, no one wanted to leave the lucrative private sector for some mediocre federal work. The military even had to put a stop loss because they had such a hard time recruiting.
If the vacation and holidays are so damn great, how about go get a job with them?
Or is this another case of someone has what I desire, thus I am mad about it and wish they did not have it? If so, instead of tearing them down, how about demand more from your employer?
The people complaining about how many days off a government worker gets would never go work for the Feds. Because then they would be part of the deep state and lazy government workers they like fo complain about.
The Federal Government provides employees with 10paid holidays each year."
And WE are called the Un-educated.
I'd bet you even have Liberal Arts college degree from some state run public school.
Government employees get PTO far beyond the private sector and work less hours. A government worker can do just about anything and not get fired. The government workers I know could never survive in the private sector.
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