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Heat waves happen and the current one is nothing compared to the 1936 Heat Wave, which killed more than 5000 people and set the all-time high temperature in 13+ states.
...and the heat and drought lasted for 9 years
we're never seen anything close to that again
If that's the test for global warming.....then global warming has improved our weather
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China has caused every bit of it.....until these "experts" come clean and start blaming China....it's a scam
Volcanoes are more or less climate neutral because in addition to CO2 they also emit a lot of particulates and sulfur dioxide, which contributes to global cooling. The massive volcanic eruption at Mount Tambora in Indonesia in 1815 caused the "Year Without A Summer" in 1816 because the suspended ash cloud circled the globe and reflected sunlight back into space.
I read that they couldn’t grow enough crops and suffered famines. Yes it changed the climate, just not warming.
If that's the test for global warming.....then global warming has improved our weather
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China has caused every bit of it.....until these "experts" come clean and start blaming China....it's a scam
...and every one of them know it
As with everything, there are two sides of the story and sanity lies somewhere between extremes.
The United States was the biggest polluter by far from the 1940's till China surpassed us in 2007. So yes we in the USA do have our fair share of blame.
Greenhouse gasses really do what is being claimed. An atmosphere full of C02 and CH4 traps heat and makes the planet hotter.
There are steps we can and should take to pollute less.
Those things are all true. The problem is people like the OP running around shrieking, "THE SKY IS FALLING!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!" When the sky is not actually falling. Planet Earth is a complex ecosystem and much of the doom and gloom that climate alarmists have prophesied simply hasn't happened. The shrieking alarmists don't realize that going green isn't something you have to sell by screaming about impending doom, death an destruction.
Actually, clean air is it's own reward. Clean water and oceans are their own reward. Clean everything is it's own reward. There's plenty we can do to clean things up and do better. We should stop pouring billions of dollars into solar and wind farms and focus on energy sources that really are productive, clean and green. Explore Thorium Nuclear Plants and if that doesn't work out, you run with Uranium Nuclear until somebody comes up with something better. The most important thing = if it works well then run with it.
The climate alarmists are loaded with people terrified of nuclear energy for mostly imagined reasons and who favor whatever technology makes them feel good, never mind if it's actually works well. They expect everyone on the planet to "just use less power." They think people will intentionally degrade their quality of life in order to save the planet -- when saving the planet is probably as simple as building a crap-ton of thorium power plants to meet the increased demand without polluting and going electric as much as possible.
As with everything, there are two sides of the story and sanity lies somewhere between extremes.
The United States was the biggest polluter by far from the 1940's till China surpassed us in 2007. So yes we in the USA do have our fair share of blame.
Greenhouse gasses really do what is being claimed. An atmosphere full of C02 and CH4 traps heat and makes the planet hotter.
There are steps we can and should take to pollute less.
Those things are all true. The problem is people like the OP running around shrieking, "THE SKY IS FALLING!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!" When the sky is not actually falling. Planet Earth is a complex ecosystem and much of the doom and gloom that climate alarmists have prophesied simply hasn't happened. The shrieking alarmists don't realize that going green isn't something you have to sell by screaming about impending doom, death an destruction.
Actually, clean air is it's own reward. Clean water and oceans are their own reward. Clean everything is it's own reward. There's plenty we can do to clean things up and do better. We should stop pouring billions of dollars into solar and wind farms and focus on energy sources that really are productive, clean and green. Explore Thorium Nuclear Plants and if that doesn't work out, you run with Uranium Nuclear until somebody comes up with something better. The most important thing = if it works well then run with it.
The climate alarmists are loaded with people terrified of nuclear energy for mostly imagined reasons and who favor whatever technology makes them feel good, never mind if it's actually works well. They expect everyone on the planet to "just use less power." They think people will intentionally degrade their quality of life in order to save the planet -- when saving the planet is probably as simple as building a crap-ton of thorium power plants to meet the increased demand without polluting and going electric as much as possible.
Nuke power it out duke. Cost way too much and no safe place to store waste. If we had real space ships that could get to a speed of 8.4 and had a real moon base with waste dumps like we did in SPACE1999 i would be all for nuke power. We can't save anything, normal changes are gonna take place with or without us. We need another planet, but since we can't even get to the moon let alone another star system that is out.
Nuke power it out duke. Cost way too much and no safe place to store waste. If we had real space ships that could get to a speed of 8.4 and had a real moon base with waste dumps like we did in SPACE1999 i would be all for nuke power. We can't save anything, normal changes are gonna take place with or without us. We need another planet, but since we can't even get to the moon let alone another star system that is out.
So not only have we figured out how to just blast the nuclear waste until it's harmless, we can also use Thorium instead of Uranium. Thorium is more efficient, it's power plants scale down in size better, and the waste from Thorium reactors will decay into a harmless form after a couple hundred years, rather than taking many thousands of years like we see with Uranium power plants.
Solar is horribly inefficient, consumes vast swaths of natural habitat and worn out solar panels will create an insane glut of toxic waste that will have to be dumped somewhere. Same things are true of wind, with the added negative of windmills being extremely efficient at murdering endangered species of birds. Coal and fossil fuel sources create vastly more radioactive waste, and dump CO2 and CH4 into the atmosphere for good measure. Hydroelectric damages fish/water ecosystems, but it might be the best option -- but only if you happen to have a big river with tall canyon walls handy for use.
Nuclear is the only option we have right now that is always on, makes excellent use of real estate vs electricity produced, and that doesn't generate CO2 or other greenhouse gases. If you have a better suggestion, let's hear it!
As with everything, there are two sides of the story and sanity lies somewhere between extremes.
The United States was the biggest polluter by far from the 1940's till China surpassed us in 2007. So yes we in the USA do have our fair share of blame.
Greenhouse gasses really do what is being claimed. An atmosphere full of C02 and CH4 traps heat and makes the planet hotter.
There are steps we can and should take to pollute less.
Those things are all true. The problem is people like the OP running around shrieking, "THE SKY IS FALLING!! THE SKY IS FALLING!!" When the sky is not actually falling. Planet Earth is a complex ecosystem and much of the doom and gloom that climate alarmists have prophesied simply hasn't happened. The shrieking alarmists don't realize that going green isn't something you have to sell by screaming about impending doom, death an destruction.
Actually, clean air is it's own reward. Clean water and oceans are their own reward. Clean everything is it's own reward. There's plenty we can do to clean things up and do better. We should stop pouring billions of dollars into solar and wind farms and focus on energy sources that really are productive, clean and green. Explore Thorium Nuclear Plants and if that doesn't work out, you run with Uranium Nuclear until somebody comes up with something better. The most important thing = if it works well then run with it.
The climate alarmists are loaded with people terrified of nuclear energy for mostly imagined reasons and who favor whatever technology makes them feel good, never mind if it's actually works well. They expect everyone on the planet to "just use less power." They think people will intentionally degrade their quality of life in order to save the planet -- when saving the planet is probably as simple as building a crap-ton of thorium power plants to meet the increased demand without polluting and going electric as much as possible.
Good points but we really need to move forward and address the problem, the recent heat wave although only in North America should raise the level of concern. We are in no danger of doing anything radical with the republican senate blocking even small solutions but we sure need to change our consumption of fossil fuels.
Good points but we really need to move forward and address the problem, the recent heat wave although only in North America should raise the level of concern. We are in no danger of doing anything radical with the republican senate blocking even small solutions but we sure need to change our consumption of fossil fuels.
The point I'm trying to make is quite simple: We have not yet experienced anything unprecedented. The 1936 Heat Wave was many many times worse than the current heatwave. You're not going to convince anyone to go green by attributing completely normal changes in the weather to climate change. If I -- a person who happens to accept the basic premise that greenhouse gases do what scientists say that they do -- can find a pre-climate change heat wave that was way way worse than the current one, then so can somebody who thinks climate change is complete BS.
Translation: Screaming, "LOOK!!!! BAD WEATHER!!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!!" whenever there a fairly normal change in the weather seriously undermines everyone who thinks that climate change is actually a thing. So ... stop doing it. The science stands up well enough without freaking out every time there's a tornado, hurricane or an abnormally hot summer.
Wanna get people on the Right on board? Tell them how you're going to provide way more electrical power. Tell them your going to do it all while making electrical power cheaper. Then you sell them on, "See!! Isn't clean air and water nice??" I'm all for a better options being found at some point, but the best option on the table right now is Thorium Nuclear Power Plants. So we go make lots and lots of those, completely get rid of coal-fire, natural gas and other dirty options, and get everyone to drive a Tesla. Do all that and it doesn't really matter who is right or wrong because everyone wins.
The biggest reason the Right pushes back is because the Left keeps pushing the whole, "We must suffer and be miserable so we can save the planet!!" Well ... we don't need to suffer or be miserable.
So not only have we figured out how to just blast the nuclear waste until it's harmless, we can also use Thorium instead of Uranium. Thorium is more efficient, it's power plants scale down in size better, and the waste from Thorium reactors will decay into a harmless form after a couple hundred years, rather than taking many thousands of years like we see with Uranium power plants.
Solar is horribly inefficient, consumes vast swaths of natural habitat and worn out solar panels will create an insane glut of toxic waste that will have to be dumped somewhere. Same things are true of wind, with the added negative of windmills being extremely efficient at murdering endangered species of birds. Coal and fossil fuel sources create vastly more radioactive waste, and dump CO2 and CH4 into the atmosphere for good measure. Hydroelectric damages fish/water ecosystems, but it might be the best option -- but only if you happen to have a big river with tall canyon walls handy for use.
Nuclear is the only option we have right now that is always on, makes excellent use of real estate vs electricity produced, and that doesn't generate CO2 or other greenhouse gases. If you have a better suggestion, let's hear it!
Just cost so much for nuke plants grant. We spend money on no win wars and country breaking. Think what we could have done with all the money blown on the ME area of the world since the 1950's.
Wanna get people on the Right on board? Tell them how you're going to provide way more electrical power. Tell them your going to do it all while making electrical power cheaper. Then you sell them on, "See!! Isn't clean air and water nice??" I'm all for a better options being found at some point, but the best option on the table right now is Thorium Nuclear Power Plants. So we go make lots and lots of those, completely get rid of coal-fire, natural gas and other dirty options, and get everyone to drive a Tesla. Do all that and it doesn't really matter who is right or wrong because everyone wins..
What about fast neutron reactors that use the plutonium in nuclear waste as fuel? We have a lot of nuclear waste to get rid of.
As with everything, there are two sides of the story and sanity lies somewhere between extremes. [list][*]The United States was the biggest polluter by far from the 1940's till China surpassed us in 2007. So yes we in the USA do have our fair share of blame.
This is total BS....
Increasing CO2 emissions is just that....increasing.....and China has been increasing emissions since the UN/IPCC was formed
For the past 50 years..the USA has not increased it's CO2 emissions....
...for the past 50 years.....China has increased it's CO2 emissions
For the past 50 years...the USA is not responsible for any increase in CO2 emissions...and for the past 50 years the USA has not contributed to any increase in global warming
...all of the increase has come from China
start reading the graph in 1970...50 years ago....when China started increasing their CO2 emissions
...and we, the USA.....did not
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