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Old 07-06-2021, 02:25 AM
 
Location: Various
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For projected future deaths, yes. For current deaths, no. "Here, we use empirical data from 732 locations in 43 countries"
Estimates are not empirical data...

Surprising that this needs to be pointed out.
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Old 07-06-2021, 02:28 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Climate change is about as BS as cryptocurrency...
The problem I have with this is that folks keep on saying this but produce no evidence in support. Sow us the science for heavens sake.
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:21 AM
 
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Estimates are not empirical data...

Surprising that this needs to be pointed out.

I don't understand your point. Analysts in every field of study use empirical data to generate estimates, then use statistical tools to calculate the confidence level. Basic math and science.
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:24 AM
 
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The problem I have with this is that folks keep on saying this but produce no evidence in support. Sow us the science for heavens sake.
The climate deniers have two approaches:


1) Avoid science and make appeals to emotion or "common sense."
2) Use highly cherry-picked data and pseudo-science. If it sounds science-y then they know the target audience will buy it without questioning it.
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:25 AM
 
Location: USA
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The problem I have with this is that folks keep on saying this but produce no evidence in support. Sow us the science for heavens sake.
Indeed.

If there is evidence to refute human-caused global warming, then why aren’t the skeptics presenting such evidence to the scientific community? Why waste one’s time on an Internet forum? Surely, winning a Nobel Prize is worth the effort, no?
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:30 AM
 
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because you can't prove a negative
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:39 AM
 
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because you can't prove a negative
Sure you can. Science uses the "null hypothesis" (Google it) as a cornerstone of testing results.

Example, null hypothesis (called H0): H0 = The world is flat. Now examine tons of evidence that proves H0 is wrong.
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:50 AM
 
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because you can't prove a negative
Yes you can.

In the case of AGW, just prove that CO2 does not absorb infrared heat, and you disprove AGW.

One way to do this: put two gas mixtures in two separate containers under an infrared heat lamp. Put lots of CO2 in one, and just ordinary air in the other. If the CO2 rich mixture doesn’t heat up faster, then you can show AGW is false.

Obviously, make sure both gas mixtures are getting the same amount of infrared heat. No cheating!
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:55 AM
 
Location: USA
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An experiment you can do at home:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge0jhY...ture=emb_title
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Old 07-06-2021, 09:56 AM
 
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Ohhhhh nooooo!

37%???

Quick, government, take my money! "Fix" this problem!
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