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Old 12-06-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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They already do if they permit abortion.
Nope.

 
Old 12-06-2021, 08:33 AM
 
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Totally illogical to think that women only care about abortion remaining legal in a given year when they are pregnant. What about the other 40 odd years they might become pregnant or the years they spend worrying about a child being involved in an unwanted pregnancy. You think women expect the law to change every year based on their fertility?
Good question. That was asked by the Harris Poll and only 6% of the respondents, which included men, are concerned about abortion.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 08:36 AM
 
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You're forgetting about when guns are used for providing food for oneself and one's family, for protecting one's property, for self-defense, etc.

Killing an unborn child is NOT an act of self-defense except in only 0.1% of all abortions in which the mother's life is at risk.

So the question stands... Keeping and bearing arms IS an actual enumerated Constitutional Right, whereas abortion is NOT. If states are not allowed to regulate abortions, why should they be able to regulate gun ownership, etc.?
States should absolutely regulate abortions. But they should be regulated for the safety of the mother, not to restrict access.


Nobody is arguing for a gun ban. If states passed laws like "you have to be 7' tall to buy a gun", I would be opposed to it, because that is restricting access without any legitimate purpose. That's different from a regulation that someone who posts about murdering Jews on White Power forums should be barred from access.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 08:36 AM
 
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More people than ever agree that abortion should remain legal. Fewer people than ever even believe it is immoral.
More people believe it's immoral than believe it's acceptable. FACT. Furthermore, abortion just isn't a prominent issue. Only 6% of Harris Poll respondents, including men, are concerned about it.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 08:40 AM
 
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States should absolutely regulate abortions. But they should be regulated for the safety of the mother, not to restrict access.


Nobody is arguing for a gun ban. If states passed laws like "you have to be 7' tall to buy a gun", I would be opposed to it, because that is restricting access without any legitimate purpose. That's different from a regulation that someone who posts about murdering Jews on White Power forums should be barred from access.
Overturning Roe v. Wade would not issue an abortion ban. It would return the regulation of abortion to each state, exactly where gun control regulations currently exist. Like I said... Keeping and bearing arms IS an actual enumerated Constitutional Right, whereas abortion is NOT. If states are not allowed to regulate abortions, why should they be able to regulate gun ownership, etc.?

 
Old 12-06-2021, 08:42 AM
 
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Good question. That was asked by the Harris Poll and only 6% of the respondents, which included men, are concerned about abortion.
Like I said, that can and likely will change depending what the court does.

Many people are not currently paying attention to this.

You can't take rights away from half the population and think there won't be a backlash. There will.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 08:44 AM
 
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Overturning Roe v. Wade would not issue an abortion ban. It would return the regulation of abortion to each state, exactly where gun control regulations currently exist. Like I said... Keeping and bearing arms IS an actual enumerated Constitutional Right, whereas abortion is NOT. If states are not allowed to regulate abortions, why should they be able to regulate gun ownership, etc.?

Overturning Roe v Wade will trigger abortion bans in many states overnight or within x days.....ususally 30 days.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 08:51 AM
 
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Overturning Roe v Wade will trigger abortion bans in many states overnight or within x days.....ususally 30 days.
So what? Many states and/or local governments have gun bans, even though the right to keep and bear arms is an enumerated Constitutional Right while abortion IS NOT.

And I have news for you... There are FAR more gun owners in the US than there are those concerned about abortion.

So, again... Keeping and bearing arms IS an actual enumerated Constitutional Right, whereas abortion is NOT. If states are not allowed to regulate abortions, why should they be able to regulate gun ownership, etc.?
 
Old 12-06-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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Abortion is not a major issue for most right now. However, if you overturn roe v Wade and a number of states outlaw it, it will become a major issue. It's a sleeping tiger.
 
Old 12-06-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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Abortion is not a major issue for most right now. However, if you overturn roe v Wade and a number of states outlaw it, it will become a major issue. It's a sleeping tiger.
I doubt it. Like I said, there are FAR more gun owners in the US than there are those concerned about abortion. If states can regulate and/or ban gun ownership, which IS an actual enumerated Constitutional Right while abortion is NOT, there is no reason they can't regulate and/or ban abortion.
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