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Old 12-11-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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Not surprising the constitution was written when women had little to no rights.
But even then most of the colonies operated under British Common Law and abortion prior to quickening was not illegal.

It was only around the 1860's that laws started popping up making it illegal.........prompted by doctors(all male) who felt midwives were undercutting their practices.

Only slaves were forced to carry pregnancies to term for more slaves.

The right want's to return all women to chattel slavery.

 
Old 12-11-2021, 08:11 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Yes, it's a perfect example of why the power to deny fundamental rights cannot be left to the whims of the states.
Brown reversed the prior SCOTUS ruling that legalized segregation for decades (about 60 years).
 
Old 12-11-2021, 08:18 AM
 
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Women are not required to control their reproduction according to your rules.
No, they're not. Failing to control one's own reproductive health isn't a valid reason to kill another human. It's beyond depraved. It's barbaric.

The decision of whether to be pregnant or not happens when a male/female couple has sex either with or without using birth control. That's when the choice is made. You and others want them, even though having already made that choice for themselves, to be able to change their minds after the fact and achieve that result by deliberately killing another human. That's barbaric.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 08:28 AM
 
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No, they're not. Failing to control one's own reproductive health isn't a valid reason to kill another human. It's beyond depraved. It's barbaric.

The decision of whether to be pregnant or not happens when a male/female couple has sex either with or without using birth control. That's when the choice is made. You and others want them, even though having already made that choice for themselves, to be able to change their minds after the fact and achieve that result by deliberately killing another human. That's barbaric.
It is depraved and barbaric that people want to put women in chattel slavery.

Women will not accept 2nd class citizenship.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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Brown reversed the prior SCOTUS ruling that legalized segregation for decades (about 60 years).
Yes, they did not go far enough in Plessy to control the whims of the states.

Just like with Roe they did not go far enough to spell out the reasoning that people like you cannot understand........... that you cannot deprive Americans of fundamental rights to liberty.

They need to clean that up. They failed to understand that the average american reads at the 7th grade level and on top of that some people can only read the Constitution one word at a time and not in context.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 08:32 AM
 
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You have zero right to be inside someone's bedroom monitoring how they control their reproduction like some kind of sick voyeur. Nor does the state.
Ok. Then pay for everything that comes out of your private parts yourself. Including your kids.

No more taxpayer funded abortions. No more child tax credits. No more free public school. No more financial aid for college. None of that.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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It is depraved and barbaric that people want to put women in chattel slavery.
That's not happening at all. Women are the one's CHOOSING to have sex without contraception. They are determining their own destiny.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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No, they're not. Failing to control one's own reproductive health isn't a valid reason to kill another human. It's beyond depraved. It's barbaric.

The decision of whether to be pregnant or not happens when a male/female couple has sex either with or without using birth control. That's when the choice is made. You and others want them, even though having already made that choice for themselves, to be able to change their minds after the fact and achieve that result by deliberately killing another human. That's barbaric.
Then, no doubt, you quite passionately support the constitutional amendment that says that life begins at conception as well as all human rights. So, if a fertility clinic throws out hundreds of frozen embryos, should there be charges of mass murder and whoever did it be subject for up to life in prison? Or should that amendment make some exceptions?
 
Old 12-11-2021, 09:22 AM
 
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In that case, if Texas has a law that allows a woman to hand over her unwanted newborn to an adult with no questions asked and leave, rather than throw it in the dumpster, then knowledge of that law better be well promoted. It would be a good time for Republicans to try to prove they care about unwanted infants after they are born.
The fact is that the Republicans do not care about born children. The most common theme I hear from them after hearing an example of a woman who is struggling to get by after the birth of a child is "She should have exercised personal responsibility and not gotten pregnant. She needs to suffer because of her lack of personal responsibility". Of course these same self righteous pricks will take their 16 year old daughter to another state to get an abortion if she gets pregnant.
 
Old 12-11-2021, 09:27 AM
 
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Yes. She doesn't have to have an abortion. A lot of women have high-risk pregnancies and don't abort.
Texas' trigger law doesn't allow an abortion merely for a high risk pregnancy. There has to be a risk of death or substantial impairment of a major bodily function.
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