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I agree with newtovenice's post. The one constant in these discussions coming from the pro-abortion contingent IS in fact that women are ill-informed, misinformed, ignorant, or just plain too stupid about getting/using birth control in spite of the availability of condoms and the OTC morning after pill in almost every store, and they are also somewhat confused as to how babies are made.
Absolutely, the assumption being made and the attitude expressed by the pro-abortion contingent in this thread is that women are colossally stupid.
Actually, you are the one who is confused. You say "use the morning after pill". That's hard to do when the woman believes her birth control was working, and doesn't find out she's pregnant for another 6 or 8 weeks.
Why do you insist that the world is black and white, and that if a woman is perfect about using birth control she won't get pregnant? That's not the reality. And, what business of yours is it if a woman gets an abortion. It's not your body, so butt out.
Thanks for posting the exact words which prove you wrong.
CA says fetus to distinguish from human being. And I said embryo's are excluded.
No, it specifically says murder applies to killing a fetus, when killing the fetus was the intent of one's actions."Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought."
Their landlord is a human life, just as a fetus has been classified as such by the legal precedent set by fetal homicide laws.
There is no precedent set by the fetal homicide laws when they have an exception for an abortion. And no, that does not violate equal protection. Go see an attorney and have them explain how equal protection works, because you haven't demonstrated any real knowledge of the subject yet.
I'll ask again. For everyone pro-life on this board, I assume you care about a child's life after birth as well. If abortion is banned, and more children are put up for adoption, how many children are you personally going to adopt? Again, I assume people who are pro-life care about the life of a child after birth (and until natural death).
Why didn't you include the next section of that law:
b) This section shall not apply to any person who commits an act that results in the death of a fetus if any of the following apply:
(1) The act complied with the Therapeutic Abortion Act, Article 2 (commencing with Section 123400) of Chapter 2 of Part 2 of Division 106 of the Health and Safety Code .
(2) The act was committed by a holder of a physician's and surgeon's certificate, as defined in the Business and Professions Code, in a case where, to a medical certainty, the result of childbirth would be death of the mother of the fetus or where her death from childbirth, although not medically certain, would be substantially certain or more likely than not.
(3) The act was solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother of the fetus.
That's the abortion exception to the law, and no, it doesn't violate equal protection. Go see an attorney and get an actual explanation before you spout any more of the garbage on this.
That's the unconstitutional part. States cannot carve out exceptions whereby some people but not others are allowed to kill an unborn child for the sake of one's own convenience.
Abortion Advocates: Women need abortion because: They forget to take their pills
They forget to use condoms
They don't know where they can get birth control
They use birth control wrong
They have sex when drunk
They have sex with men unsuitable to be fathers
They seem confused that sex can lead to pregnancy
They take no responsibility for their sexual actions
Pro life: Women don't need abortion because: They know where to get birth control
They use birth control correctly
They use multiple forms of birth control
They choose sex partners wisely
They know that sex can lead to pregnancy
They take responsibility for their sexual actions
Again: Which viewpoint promotes that women are stupid???
I understand how it works, and this is my suggestion:
As abortion involves death, i.e., the deliberate killing of another human life, it would make more sense if California made its proposed "bounty" law apply to those who used a gun to deliberately kill another human, except in the case of justifiable self-defense. I doubt anyone would object to that.
CA is not trying to make sense lol.
It would be stupid to think they dont know this will ultimately fail just as the TX law will.
They are just poking their finger in Republican's eyes. This legislation has likely been sitting around for weeks waiting on the SC to act.
Amazing that people who hang out in this forum are not smart enough to see that.
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