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Ah, so you are against generally screening for women who want an abortion. Why? You want to keep them ignorant? Why? Think they may just decide against an abortion when they realize that they've been lied to by people like you and it's not just a clump of inanimate crap but is a baby?
Any doctor who refused to give a patient informed consent should have their license revoked. Why are you against informed consent?
An abortion rips apart another human being limb by limb at which point they are sucked out using a vacuum.
That's invasive.
PS. I'm female, so take your garbage sexist, racist, ageist diatribe elsewhere. It's juvenile, disgusting, and irrelevant.
You are OK with a doctor being forced, under penalty of law, to assault a woman with a probe to perform an unnecessary procedure that carries its own risks? That makes you the disgusting one here, not me. If the woman has decided to have an abortion, all the doctor needs to tell her is the potential complications, That's it. That's informed consent. Keep your nose out of other women's business.
So in your view, do I as a woman have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness or not based on how the Constitution is written?
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In the same traditional way as I, which means we both have the right to live, we may choose our careers, where we live, who we marry, etc.
The Constitution did not cover abortion at all. That was not an accident. It did state all rights not granted the federal government belong at the local level.
The Constitution also does not say all women are created equal to men. The constitution did not cover women at all. So you haven't answered the question.
Just stop. You are just wrong. Completely wrong on this, and show it every time you repeat these untruths. There is no precedent in the fetal homicide laws.
Tell that to everyone who was sentenced to prison for committing fetal homicide.
No it does not. The EXACT quote from the CA Penal Code § 187 defines murder as: "Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought."
Malice: A desire to harm others
That includes desiring to kill a fetus, per CA law.
Thanks for posting the exact words which prove you wrong.
CA says fetus to distinguish from human being. And I said embryo's are excluded.
I'll ask again. For everyone pro-life on this board, I assume you care about a child's life after birth as well. If abortion is banned, and more children are put up for adoption, how many children are you personally going to adopt? Again, I assume people who are pro-life care about the life of a child after birth (and until natural death).
No it does not. The EXACT quote from the CA Penal Code § 187 defines murder as: "Murder is the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought."
Malice: A desire to harm others
That includes desiring to kill a fetus, per CA law.
Why didn't you include the next section of that law:
b) This section shall not apply to any person who commits an act that results in the death of a fetus if any of the following apply:
(1) The act complied with the Therapeutic Abortion Act, Article 2 (commencing with Section 123400) of Chapter 2 of Part 2 of Division 106 of the Health and Safety Code .
(2) The act was committed by a holder of a physician's and surgeon's certificate, as defined in the Business and Professions Code, in a case where, to a medical certainty, the result of childbirth would be death of the mother of the fetus or where her death from childbirth, although not medically certain, would be substantially certain or more likely than not.
(3) The act was solicited, aided, abetted, or consented to by the mother of the fetus.
That's the abortion exception to the law, and no, it doesn't violate equal protection. Go see an attorney and get an actual explanation before you spout any more of the garbage on this.
Then why do you constantly post that they are in these threads?
Do you have reading comprehension problems? Reread the last few posts.
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