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Old 12-22-2021, 08:54 AM
 
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18 years of paying money is NOTHING when compared to a woman's bodily changes (and possible lifelong medical problems) when forced to give birth and the 18+ years of caring for that child. No comparison whatsoever!
WTH are you talking about? How many pregnancies result in lifetime medical problems for a woman? What bodily changes? A woman's body is designed to give birth.

 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:55 AM
 
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If a woman has 3-5 children already and can't support another one then why did she engage in an activity and probably without protection, that creates another child?
When one doesn't have the money to go out to eat or to the movies, one looks for free entertainment. Sex is free. That's life. Sex happens. Sometime birth control doesn't work. That's life.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:55 AM
 
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And when a family of 5 with 3 kids loses financial security, which child do you think they should kill?

Since money is your parameter, these 2 situations are equal.
Maybe the least favorite child. It murder should keep the other kids quiet when they want food she can’t afford.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:57 AM
 
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18 years of paying money is NOTHING when compared to a woman's bodily changes (and possible lifelong medical problems) when forced to give birth and the 18+ years of caring for that child. No comparison whatsoever!
I disagree. Men are under extreme stress to financially provide for children they did not want. We know the physical stress on men is worse because they have a shorter life span than women, on average.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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And when a family of 5 with 3 kids loses financial security, which child do you think they should kill?

Since money is your parameter, these 2 situations are equal.
Exactly.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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WTH are you talking about? How many pregnancies result in lifetime medical problems for a woman? What bodily changes? A woman's body is designed to give birth.
You never heard of hemorrhoids? They sometimes get better after birth, but never go away and can appear again later in life.

What about bladder leaks? Happens to many women after childbirth. It is lifelong.

What about when a woman has a difficult birth and is told another pregnancy could kill her? You would probably deny that woman an abortion too if her birth control failed.

What about women who need a C-section because the birth canal is too small? That is major surgery. How many times would you force a woman to undergo a C-section if her birth control fails?

Do you get the idea? Not every woman has an easy birth.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 09:03 AM
 
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Biology. His choice is before sex and after. Same as a woman’s.
So you would agree that men should be able to opt out of the responsibility of fatherhood, including any financial obligation, as easily as women can choose to get an abortion?
 
Old 12-22-2021, 09:05 AM
 
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I disagree. Men are under extreme stress to financially provide for children they did not want. We know the physical stress on men is worse because they have a shorter life span than women, on average.
Well that comment made no sense at all.
 
Old 12-22-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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You never heard of hemorrhoids? They sometimes get better after birth, but never go away and can appear again later in life.

What about bladder leaks? Happens to many women after childbirth. It is lifelong.

What about when a woman has a difficult birth and is told another pregnancy could kill her? You would probably deny that woman an abortion too if her birth control failed.

What about women who need a C-section because the birth canal is too small? That is major surgery. How many times would you force a woman to undergo a C-section if her birth control fails?

Do you get the idea? Not every woman has an easy birth.
And if you have sex you can get STDs, bruising or tearing, warts, and other infections. Some are life-threatening as well.

Are you screeching about how dangerous sex is?
 
Old 12-22-2021, 09:07 AM
 
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Well that comment made no sense at all.
If it makes no sense to you, that's because you're ignoring reality.
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