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And yet millions of women have survived childbirth for over 4000 years. Many while working in fields, would give birth, swaddle the baby and go right back to picking crops. Amazing the fortitude of women. Women are much stronger than given credit for being ... It is only the weak minded that believe women 'need' anything.
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And millions of women died in childbirth. One of my ancestors had two wives die in childbirth in the 1870's.
Well then I guess it's amazing we have all survived to have stories to tell over the course of 4000 years. May be not so much in the future as the decline in the human population could put us at risk of extinction. But I guess that would be just as well, too.
A law that implements the 10th Amendment isn't unconstitutional. That's why SCOTUS has let it stand, to date.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
No it is not why they have let it stand lol. Have you been talking to us from under a rock?
To be honest, I'm amazed they came up with it and impressed too, that they did. All to often States stand threatened through funding by the Federal Government if they do not comply ... this, there is nothing the Feds can do about it, it's the law.
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It's a really bad law. It will be overturned, since allowing bounty hunting members of the public to enforce law through suits is a really horrible way to run things. Next up, California makes it illegal to be a Texan in the state, and enforces it in the same manner. Or, Georgia makes being Black illegal, but enforcement is delegated to random members of the public.
Let the voters speak --- it's all good. It's called self-governing, perhaps you've heard of it.
Why do you keep raising this irrelevant garbage? Those laws could be repealed tomorrow(and should be rewritten to require that the perpetrator know the woman is pregnant) and your so called precedent disappears.
the fetal homicide laws DO NOT SET PRECEDENT. They define a crime. That's it. Period. And, they exclude abortion.
Convictions in courts of law set precedents. People have been convicted of both: fetal homicide and women have been convicted of child abuse for abusing drugs while pregnant.
Explain how courts have ruled it's child abuse if there is no child.
It will cause angst among 2nd Amendment supporters when California makes owning a firearm illegal and uses the same method to enforce it. It's horrific public policy.
Yes even the spineless Supremes recognize that as evidenced by Kavanaugh's questions.
And yet is it the poor women in the communities people seem to be most concerned about if the law changes.
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Poor women will be most impacted by the inability to access safe and legal abortion. That is indisputable.
And it would put the medical industry involved in fetal tissue harvesting at risk of loosing big Pharma contracts, if poor women give birth rather than go through abortion.
You'd be better served in this if you could wrap your head around the real winners in this. No one give a rats butt about you, stop pretending that they do.
It's a really bad law. It will be overturned, since allowing bounty hunting members of the public to enforce law through suits is a really horrible way to run things.
You should have told the drafters and signatories of the US Constitution that since they clearly give power to the people in the 10th Amendment.
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Next up, California makes it illegal to be a Texan in the state, and enforces it in the same manner. Or, Georgia makes being Black illegal, but enforcement is delegated to random members of the public.
As it would be a civil matter (not criminal), as in the TX law, any person pursuing enforcement would have to prove they've been harmed to have standing.
And it would put the medical industry involved in fetal tissue harvesting at risk of loosing big Pharma contracts, if poor women give birth rather than go through abortion.
You'd be better served in this if you could wrap your head around the real winners in this. No one give a rats butt about you, stop pretending that they do.
You should have told the drafters and signatories of the US Constitution that since they clearly give power to the people in the 10th Amendment.
As it would be a civil matter (not criminal), as in the TX law, any person pursuing enforcement would have to prove they've been harmed to have standing.
The founders are spinning in their graves and kicking themselves for not including a provision to kick states out of the union.
The idea that they would support Texas' blatant misuse of law to concoct the bogus scheme they have is profane.
And it would put the medical industry involved in fetal tissue harvesting at risk of loosing big Pharma contracts, if poor women give birth rather than go through abortion.
You'd be better served in this if you could wrap your head around the real winners in this. No one give a rats butt about you, stop pretending that they do.
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Not going down rabbit holes with you.
Because you know its true ... I am 60 years old and was here during Roe V Wade decision being handed down. Saw it right off in the end who it served best. It damn sure wasn't women.
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