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Old 01-01-2022, 11:34 AM
 
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Many states have just one clinic now, so if she wants an abortion, in many cases, she'll be traveling. This includes Kentucky, Mississippi, Arkansas, and Missouri. Texas often has distances between clinics the size of states.

Wyoming and both ND and SD have one each, also.

https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/201...inics-laws-map
So what?

I do wonder out of curiousity what your vested interest is in making it a system that keeps abortion legal but makes it more difficult for women to access?

Just like harassing women or something? Do tell us.

 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:36 AM
 
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Not only that, but in making the people the enforcer of their law, TX has abided by the 10th Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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The people of Texas overwhelmingly disagree with you.
45/50 ... and in time, if they do disagree, guess what is in their hands to do. Keep representatives from drawing another paycheck.

Do state laws on abortion reflect public opinion?

The only way to appreciate Texas is to know its history ...
 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:39 AM
 
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Yes it is irrelevant when we are talking about living, breathing, walking, talking human beings who may also be mother's to already living children vs a fetus.
There is no difference. Fetal homicide laws and the women prosecuted for and convicted of child abuse for abusing drugs during pregnancy (among other things) have already set the legal precedent that an unborn child is a separate human life.

For more info, refer to the table at this link:

https://projects.propublica.org/grap...icies-by-state
 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:41 AM
 
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Not only that, but in making the people the enforcer of their law, TX has abided by the 10th Amendment:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
To be honest, I'm amazed they came up with it and impressed too, that they did. All to often States stand threatened through funding by the Federal Government if they do not comply ... this, there is nothing the Feds can do about it, it's the law.
 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:41 AM
 
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So what?

I do wonder out of curiousity what your vested interest is in making it a system that keeps abortion legal but makes it more difficult for women to access?

.
All rights not granted explicitly to the federal government are states' rights, even for blondes.

I am delighted with a Strict Constitutionalist SCOTUS that now follow that principle.

I do agree with all states, not just those with few clinics, making decisions themselves, as locally elected officials usually adhere to the wishes of the people. ALL of them.
 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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To be honest, I'm amazed they came up with it and impressed too, that they did. All to often States stand threatened through funding by the Federal Government if they do not comply ... this there is nothing the Feds can do about it, it's the law.
It was an ingenious law. That is why it causes such angst among the pro abortion folks.
 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:43 AM
 
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And yet millions of women have survived childbirth for over 4000 years. Many while working in fields, would give birth, swaddle the baby and go right back to picking crops. Amazing the fortitude of women. Women are much stronger than given credit for being ... It is only the weak minded that believe women 'need' anything.
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Agreed women don't need the state telling them when they should or should not carry a pregnancy to term. The state and busy body citizens of the state should butt out.
The don't need anyone telling them they can't either.
 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:45 AM
 
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There is no difference. Fetal homicide laws and the women prosecuted for and convicted of child abuse for abusing drugs during pregnancy (among other things) have already set the legal precedent that an unborn child is a separate human life.

For more info, refer to the table at this link:

https://projects.propublica.org/grap...icies-by-state
Get out with your fetal homicide bogus arguments. No court in the land agrees with you.
 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:46 AM
 
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The people of Texas overwhelmingly disagree with you.
And, yet, they elect their state legislature, which has enacted the law...

Texans who disagree with the law can merely choose to not enforce it.
 
Old 01-01-2022, 11:47 AM
 
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And, yet, they elect their state legislature, which has enacted the law...
Only with the backstop of Roe in place. If that falls, all bets are off.
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