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Old 12-03-2021, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by katie45 View Post
Calgirlinnc is exactly correct! Ludicrous comments from those who want to maintain legal abortion will stop at nothing to spew forth inane statements of no value.
What is the procedure for eliminating a tubal or ectopic pregnancy?

Do any of the (anti abortion) state trigger laws allow for this?

 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Maine
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Amen to all of this. I had two children and the first delivery was very difficult and my body has never been the same. And these were wanted children. Imagine telling a man that his body is going to be taken over against his will, it will destroy certain parts of him, and he has no choice but to be forced to do it anyway.

The howling outrage would be heard in outer space.

But it's perfectly fine to do that to a woman.
Perhaps you've heard of the draft, you know where a MAN can be forced to go to war and be killed, maimed, psychologically damaged. Ya poor woman, forced to carry a baby to term for 9 whole months.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:45 AM
 
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In the same manner that a corporation is a "person". Can a fetus, walk, talk, live on its own? No, a fetus is, technically, a parasite.
While that's your "opinion," it's not legal reality. Fetal homicide laws have already set the legal precedent that an unborn child is a separate human life.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:48 AM
 
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In a third of the states, yes it would. Something like 12 states already have trigger laws that make abortion illegal if Roe is overturned. In Texas, if Roe is "wholly or partially" overturned, 30 days later, performing an abortion becomes a felony with life in prison and a $100,000 fine as potential penalties.

You will next argue that women can travel to other states to get an abortion. That might be a possibility, unless you are a woman with no money who lives 600 miles from the nearest clinic.
That's what privately-funded charities are for. Put your money where your mouth is. Start donating...
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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Perhaps you've heard of the draft, you know where a MAN can be forced to go to war and be killed, maimed, psychologically damaged. Ya poor woman, forced to carry a baby to term for 9 whole months.
We only had a draft from 1940 until 1973. It's been awhile.

If you have never carried a baby, you just don't know what it does to the body.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:50 AM
 
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That is because the government has no right to dictate medical procedures. Medical procedures are between the patient and doctor. Government needs to butt out.
Exactly so, there is NO Constitutional Right to abortion. As such, each respective state can regulate abortion as they and their electorate see fit.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:51 AM
 
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Yes, there are. Hispanic and Black women are 2 to 5 times more likely, respectively, to have an abortion than white women (KFF and US Census Bureau). Racist and bigoted lefties fully support that and want to keep it that way. It's all about supporting race-based genocide.
Women of color aren’t stupid or that easily led to get an abortion if they don’t want one. Doesn’t matter how many clinics in a neighborhood no woman who wants her pregnancy will abort. We have McDonald’s on every corner and still have people that won’t eat there.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:52 AM
 
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That's what privately-funded charities are for. Put your money where your mouth is. Start donating...
Will you be donating to support all the poor children who will be born if abortion becomes illegal in your state? Or to support the ones who will be put into foster care? Put your money where your mouth is.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:54 AM
 
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That only applies in situations where the woman intended to keep the child.
No, it doesn't. If you believe so, cite the fetal homicide law that states such language.
 
Old 12-03-2021, 07:54 AM
 
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Exactly so, there is NO Constitutional Right to abortion. As such, each respective state can regulate abortion as they and their electorate see fit.
Wrong. The state has no more right to regulate what medical procedures a person gets than the federal government does.
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