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Old 08-16-2021, 05:48 PM
 
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Vaccines take up to a decade and sometimes even longer to go through full testing. Are you arguing that the Covid vaccines were tested according to standards and spent 10 years in clinical trials? I’m not asking how long mRNA has been tested overall, simply how long the Covid vaccines, in their final form, were tested. How many clinical trials did they go through? How large were the trials and what were the results? If they were tested and verified as being safe, why don’t they have full FDA approval?
10 years is simply a number you plucked out of no where. There is no 10 year mandatory testing regime. They typical development timeframe is a function of limited budgets and limited numbers of scientists working on a specific vaccine. Two limitations that did not exist for Covid vaccines.

They went through the normal number of clinical trials, but with much larger numbers of participants than normal.

Again, emergency use authorisation is not a synonym of untested. There is plenty of reading you could do on the topic. I'd be happy to provide you some links if you are actually interested?

 
Old 08-16-2021, 05:51 PM
 
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I never understood Atheist's need to ridicule the beliefs of others by using phrases like "sky fairy" or "The Great Spaghetti Monster".

It's like they have to justify believing in nothing by making fun of others.

I don't get it.
Love the irony of your post.

It's like you have to justify believing in a "god" by making fun of others by saying they believe in nothing...
 
Old 08-17-2021, 02:24 PM
 
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If the vaccinated can still catch and spread Covid....then they are not "immune".

Lessening the symptoms isn't the same thing as immunity.

But that's the whole concept behind the Left's obsession with the vaccine.
They act as if vaccinations will stop the spread.....

It won't.

Einstein.
Immunity: "the ability of an organism to resist a particular infection or toxin by the action of specific antibodies or sensitized white blood cells."

People who have been vaccinated have these specific antibodies and white blood cells. But immunity is not a Yes or No situation. Some people will have a higher level of antibodies than others. Some people will have antibodies that bind tighter to the spike protein. People who are vaccinated will be less likely to contract and spread the virus. If they do get infected, they will be better able to fight it off.

No vaccine is 100% effective. So some vaccinated people might still catch and spread the virus. Some might still get sick or even die. But vaccination will greatly reduce the spread of Covid-19.

We can see this already if you compare states with high vaccination rates to those with low rates. Take Maryland and Missouri, for example. they have similar populations (~6M). 60% of people in MD have been fully vaxxed, compared to 43% in MO. Missouri is running about 4200 new cases per day, compared to only 1000 per day in Maryland. Florida is seeing 25,000 new cases per day, which is twice the rate of California even though CA has almost twice the population.
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