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It helps when your enemy changes government every four years like people changes clothes. It doesn’t take much to outlast us. We have short attention spans and have little to no lasting cultural adherence. What was sacred just a few decades ago, like for example respecting our national anthem, flag, patriotism, are now out of style.
Vietnam was out of style as well but that didn't stop Bush from creating another one.
Bin Laden orchestrated the 9/11 attacks from within afghanistan and was given safe harbor by the Taliban, who pledged to protect him when we demanded they turn him over. Bin Laden was in Pakistan because he and Al Qaeda had been driven out of Afghanistan. Why does this need explaining?
The senate and house roll calls were virtually unanimous on action in afghanistan, it is beyond absurd to now point at Joe Bidens failure and reason inaction against Bin Laden in 2001 was a rational course.
Make no mistake had Donald Trump still been president our exit would have been orderly and dignified. Biden did what democrats do, cut and run. The Taliban expected nothing less.
With Bidens open border policies we should be worried. Very worried.
Pakistan also has Al Qaeda even today, are we going to invade Pakistan. We spent 10 years invading a country that Bin Laden left.
It's absurd to think this would have ended any better under Trump, remember he originally wanted to leave last year. There is no way this ends any differently with an army that has no heart in the fight, a force of around 350,000 Afghans was defeated in weeks. The Taliban took over Kabul without firing a shot and you think this would have been different with Trump at the helm.
We should have left there immediately, we had the history of failures by Great Britain and Russia but we thought we were all powerful.
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Bin Laden orchestrated the 9/11 attacks from within afghanistan and was given safe harbor by the Taliban, who pledged to protect him when we demanded they turn him over. Bin Laden was in Pakistan because he and Al Qaeda had been driven out of Afghanistan. Why does this need explaining?
The senate and house roll calls were virtually unanimous on action in afghanistan, it is beyond absurd to now point at Joe Bidens failure and reason inaction against Bin Laden in 2001 was a rational course. Make no mistake had Donald Trump still been president our exit would have been orderly and dignified. Biden did what democrats do, cut and run. The Taliban expected nothing less.
With Bidens open border policies we should be worried. Very worried.
Pure speculation and doubtful given he couldn't even organize a stable administration.
So don't defend yourself when attacked? Cowardly. Get the attackers, bring our troops home and stop violating the rights of sovereign countries and their people.
Afghanistan didn't attack us, and the US government didn't try to stop those who did. That would have been the time for the government to "defend" us.
Instead, the Feds invited the alleged hijackers into the country, the Air Force stood down and allowed the jets to fly into the Twin Towers, and then the Feds destroyed the crime scene. That's where our anger should have been directed.
We could have avenged the 9/11 without starting a war. (See the extermination of UBL)
Yes, or the missile attack by Reagan against Khadafy. This is the model we should follow against terror attacks, not nation building. They go asymmetrical, we go asymmetrical right back at them.
It is not often recalled that there was close to 100% support for invading Afghanistan. Sen. Barack Obama was a strong supporter.
The powers that be like war. It keeps them in a job. And they get a nice pension....and they can retire at 55.
"War is the health of the state."--Randolph Bourne, activist in the WWI era, just over 100 years ago.
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