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Old 08-17-2021, 06:56 PM
 
Location: DFW
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The new leader of the Taliban was released from a Pakistani prison in 2018 at the specific request of then-President Trump. Shall we discuss that?
Is this the same guy Obama released from Gitmo as part of the 5 person swap for the deserter?

https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliba...swap-by-obama/

Taliban leader was freed from Guantanamo Bay in 2014 swap by Obama

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Earlier this year, one of them, Khairullah Khairkhwa, actually sat across the table from President Biden’s envoy to Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, in Moscow, where Khairkhwa was part of the official Taliban delegation that negotiated the final terms of the US withdrawal. The retreat cleared a path for the Taliban to retake power after 20 years.
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Old 08-17-2021, 06:57 PM
 
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Your beloved Obama was rarely criticized by his followers.
That's because you likely only pay attention to right-wing media.

He was constantly criticized in the most progressive part of the country.

President Obama arrives in SF to jeers, not cheers he received in past

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Old 08-17-2021, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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So Obama wasn’t Marxist enough for you? Biden fixed that. Biden is the most Marxist politician, even more so than Sanders.
How sad. A 50 year product of the American political system is Marxist? Can you folks get any sillier?
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Old 08-17-2021, 06:59 PM
 
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So Obama wasn’t Marxist enough for you? Biden fixed that. Biden is the most Marxist politician, even more so than Sanders.

You speak as if you have no clue what Marxism is.

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Old 08-17-2021, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Vallejo
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Criticism is normal in the liberal world.

Liberals don't worship the POTUS the way that the right-wingers worship theirs and pegged them to be infallible.

We will criticize Biden when he deserves to be criticized.

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Lol, right.

Some people bought into Trump's sob story about how the press wasn't always nice to him.

I think you're seeing two things. One is that people who were asleep are now being rudely awakened. Trump surrendered to the Taliban. They're just now realizing it and, well, Trump surrendered to the Taliban. A lot of people who really shouldn't have been sleeping though their security briefings were sleeping though their security briefings.

Second is while everyone was busy with other stuff, turns out nobody was paying much attention to the practicalities of that we were surrendering to the Taliban. As such despite having many months to do so, well, it didn't happen very smoothly at all. As oops go it's pretty big.
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Old 08-17-2021, 07:00 PM
 
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How sad. A 50 year product of the American political system is Marxist? Can you folks get any sillier?
Biden is a full blown Marxist. That’s a fact.
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Old 08-17-2021, 07:01 PM
 
Location: TPA
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Originally Posted by beb0p View Post
Criticism is normal in the liberal world.

Liberals don't worship the POTUS the way that the right-wingers worship theirs and pegged them to be infallible.

We will criticize Biden when he deserves to be criticized.

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Right.

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You don't remember liberals worshiping Obama? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
Nope. In fact I remember quite a few friends and family who voted for him having complaints throughout the years. I voted for him and I had some complaints too. Yes many people will call him the best modern president, but ive never met a single soul who calls him perfect. I know plenty of liberals who will QUICKLY bring up the fact he dropped bombs.

Yet Trump is considered by MAGA the best thing to happen to the USA since 1776, a figure who never did any wrong and who could never do it. He was perfect to them. The slightest Trump slander triggers a slowflake avalanche. Folks just wont let him be criticized, like every other human on the planet. Look at the mental gymnastic people - including you - are going through to blame Biden 100% for Afghanistan. Even when you say Bush and Obama are to blame too, people still move the goalpost to get Trump out of it. So we can blame Obama, who hasnt been president in 5 years, but can't blame Trump, who let the current Taliban president out of prison?

I can't recall a time where any of my Trump-voting friends ever pulled out a complaint on Trump. They may have not saw him as completely untouchable and they werent MAGA brainwashed, but any criticism of him was met with deflection or the good old ignore tactic.

Because no one treated Obama or treats Biden like a demagogue like Trump was. No one treated Bush like one either. Trump on the other hand was and still is literally worshiped by people. Folks literally claim he was sent here by Jesus himself. Meanwhile those same folks called Obama the antichrist. That should be enough.
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Old 08-17-2021, 07:01 PM
 
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You speak as if you have no clue what Marxism is.

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I do know what Marxism is. Clearly you do not. You cloak yourselves in such phrases as progressives, democratic socialists, social activists, community activists because most Americans remain openly hostile to Marxism. You use different nomenclatures such as Black Lives Matter, Antifa, The Squad and claim to promote economic justice, environmental justice, racial equity, gender equity. You have invented new theories such as Critical Race Theory. You claim the capitalist system is unjust, inequitable, racist, sexist,
Colonialist, materialistic, imperialist, and destructive of the environment.

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Old 08-17-2021, 07:02 PM
 
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How sad. A 50 year product of the American political system is Marxist? Can you folks get any sillier?
Surprise, surprise, here I have to agree with you. Biden is no more Marxist than Martin Van Buren or Richard J. Daley. They are all kleptocrats and patronage-seekers.

But hey, where were you for 4 years as your side of the aisle screamed that Trump was a 'fascist.' Anyone who said that does not have any clue of what a fascist is.
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Old 08-17-2021, 07:02 PM
 
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Is this the same guy Obama released from Gitmo as part of the 5 person swap for the deserter?

https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliba...swap-by-obama/

Taliban leader was freed from Guantanamo Bay in 2014 swap by Obama
Short answer: No.
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