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Trump stomped on terrorists to the point any group stopped killing Americans in Afghanistan.
BS. Trump stomped on no one. He made a deal with the Taliban: we'll release thousands of your fighters that we captured, and we promise to leave by May 1, if you promise not to kill us. How is it that you are not aware of these facts?
Until 30 days ago the Taliban controlled about 3% of Afghanistan. Only after Biden announced a firm date for all U.S. troops to be gone and we withdrew from Kandahar, Bagram, etc did the Taliban begin to conquer territory.
Not true. Immediately after Doha was signed, Taliban began an 18-month systematic campaign to buy off tribal leaders and Army personnel. There is no shortage of reports on this:
Afghanistan was lost from the day Doha was signed. Cutting elected govt from the deal served to delegitimize the government. Everyone switched to the winning side in 2020 - which is why the country was lost in 11 days.
Trump put in motion the overnight collapse.
Biden is responsible for the chaotic, botched withdrawal. Our intelligence and military warned him this was very possible. He wouldn't listen.
My view was and remains, US should never have left Afghanistan. We will ALWAYS need a presence there to monitor the terrorists. They are not going away.
Panetta is right, we will again have troops on the ground in Afghanistan as these terrorist groups gain strength.
Of all the Trump deals Biden should have reversed, it was Doha. It is INEVITABLE with the US leaving, the power vacuum reasserts and al-Qaeda and all manner of other terrorist groups will find a haven there - YET AGAIN.
First we have Tweedledumb surrendering to the Taliban. Then we have Tweedledee going along with it.
The end result, no matter how executed, is Afghanistan once again becomes a haven for terrorists - and the US and the world are much less safe because of this international security policy disaster.
Irrelevant. All Taliban needed was to begin its march. The fix was in. Read the supporting reports. As soon as the Taliban began their march, every province caved with no resistance - because all of them had been bought off long ago starting immediately after Doha.
Read the Afghan commander's report - or can't you access the NYT? If not let me know, and I will DM you exactly what he said.
This is too much. The president whose team negotiated with and then made the peace deal with the Taliban that got us to this point is now saying it was Biden who surrendered to the Taliban.
Biden wanted to take a victory lap by getting everyone out by 9/11 he bet on the Afghan army staying and fighting, They deserted. This is all on him and his generals, no one else. Sorry.
The national and international security policy disaster with all of its unthinkable and inevitable ramifications yet to come are on both Trump and Biden.
Trump for surrendering to the Taliban, Biden for executing it.
Long-term, the botched execution is insignificant compared to what will soon be resurrection of al-Qaeda and ISIS-K in Afghanistan.
Biden was planing to take credit for “bringing our troops home,” but didn’t put much brain power into why we were there for 20 years to begin with.
We’ll eventually invade Afghanistan again because America really hates it when terrorists have safe havens. Freedom isn’t free.
Thank you!! Just deleted my other post complaining about what appears to be almost universal lack of attention on this board to your exact point.
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