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Old 09-10-2021, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by NCSweettea View Post
At this point the media is just out right lying to the American people.
That's nothing new. But it is more blatant. I quit watching the "news" a few years ago.

 
Old 09-10-2021, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Plus, I also left out the 648,000 people who have already died. That is a pretty sobering statistic, and should be enough to make any rational person get vaccinated.
If you believe that number you are on the extreme end of the naivety scale.
 
Old 09-10-2021, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The reason is is in order for an unproven to be safe vaccine to be used in "emergency" use, no other effective treatments must exist.
 
Old 09-10-2021, 03:11 PM
 
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If you believe that number you are on the extreme end of the naivety scale.
And what do you think proper figures are?
 
Old 09-27-2021, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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And what do you think proper figures are?
https://off-guardian.org/2021/09/22/...vid-cribsheet/
 
Old 09-27-2021, 09:28 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Roadking2003 View Post
They may not all be medical misinformation but there is simply too much stuff there. But if you want to post up one at a time, I will show you the fallacy (ies).

That being said, there was serious excess mortality in the USA 2020. mainly due to Covid 19, but 1/4 of the excess deaths were non-Covid.

Scroll down to weekly excess deaths graphs:

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm
 
Old 09-27-2021, 09:36 AM
 
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Liberal will support the Trump vaccine. As long as they can hide the fact that all of them said Trumps idea of one was ridiculous. And could not be done in a year.

Has Biden done anything about covid himself?
 
Old 09-27-2021, 09:41 AM
 
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Liberal will support the Trump vaccine. As long as they can hide the fact that all of them said Trumps idea of one was ridiculous. And could not be done in a year.

Has Biden done anything about covid himself?
That was the general medical consensus and opinion at the time, and the Dems as usual just parroted the medical.
 
Old 09-27-2021, 09:46 AM
 
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Why does it have to be a liberal vs republican thing? I think it's more of a "trust the doctor" vs "I'll do what I read on the internet " thing.
 
Old 09-27-2021, 09:48 AM
 
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Just curious what credible papers are out there stating that the current vaccines are safe and no worries of long term side effects.

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t a Vaccine development a long, complex process, often lasting approximately 10-15 years!
The research to develop vaccines for Corona viruses began in 2003. Since Covid IS a Corona virus, that research was applicable to its vaccine being available quickly.
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