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Old 09-12-2021, 05:48 AM
 
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If you are vaxxed and I am not, please explain how that's a threat to you.
It isn't.
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:04 AM
 
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Yes, I follow the science. The vaccines are roughly 95% effective against the initial variants, somewhat less so against delta. The more unvaccinated people we have, the more incubators we have, the more variants we have. Yes, the blame is correct.



Very rarely. Only if they are breakthrough infections, which are pretty rare all things considered. The unvaccinated form the greatest pool for mutational incubation.




Sure, that would be true. But that isn't really that big a deal, because vaccinated people rarely get infected, and rarely experience hospitalization.

I was really thinking about people who have heart attacks, get into car accidents, that type of thing.



Much less so of course. Vaccinated people rarely get infected to the point where they have enough viral load to infect others. Yes, it could happen, but it is rational to play the odds and consider vaccinated people less risky to be around.





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Old 09-12-2021, 06:09 AM
 
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I am around young children like many of us are. They can't be vaccinated yet so we could easily spread it to them. So it's not personally a threat to me, it's a threat to them. We need to care of our kids.

Covid is statistically a non-issue for adolescents. Stop with the banality.
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:12 AM
 
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If the vaxxed are being forced to change their behavior to protect the unvaxxed, then the vaxxed should have a right to do something about it.
The unvaxxed are not asking the vaxxed to do anything at all to protect them. Live your life and allow others to do the same. Risks and all.
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:17 AM
 
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Your "superiority" complex is showing again!



Do I want to be superior or stupid. Let me think.
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Unvaxxed carry more viral load.

Do you folks really not know this or are you so blinded by your political bias you refuse to acknowledge it?
Um...

"Although the assay used in this investigation was not validated to provide quantitative results, there was no significant difference between the Ct values of samples collected from breakthrough cases and the other cases. This might mean that the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with SARS-CoV-2 is also similar. However, microbiological studies are required to confirm these findings."

Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, Including COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections, Associated with Large Public Gatherings — Barnstable County, Massachusetts, July 2021

Just sayin'.
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:21 AM
 
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Someone drank the kool aid...that doesn’t sound like a vaccine to me
Then you would also not consider the aP vaccine to be a vaccine either?
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Old 09-12-2021, 06:28 AM
 
Location: california
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Vaccinated can still spread the disease. Fact.
Un vaccinated will either die or not spread the disease being naturally immune or using an alternative form of resistance like Ivermectin, which I know for a fact and personal experience it works, no matter how much people might bad mouth it.
The democrats don't care about your life, they care about their control and the money, nothing more. They lie just like the Muslims do.
Not being actual vaccines one has to wonder what is actually in those solutions? Why the full-court press?
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Old 09-12-2021, 08:43 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Medical doctors aren't even the ones ordering the vaccine. Most people are getting the shot at their local grocery store. I don't know of anyone who actually was vaccinated by their physician. Do you?
What do you think public health doctors are? When you understand how pandemics and epidemiology work - then you can comment.
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Old 09-12-2021, 08:49 AM
 
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I'll choose one example.

If something happens to me -- car accident, fall, some health crisis....and I need to go to the hospital, my hospital may not have the resources to treat me because their over burdened with non-vaccinated people with COVID.

Overwhelmingly the hospitals are reporting that their critical beds are being dominated by unvaccinated COVID patients. True there are some vaccinated but they are in a true minority.

If someone gets vaccinated, the changes of them needing that critical care is reduced (and let's not forget that while you still may contract COVID when you are vaccinated the changes of contracting it are reduced....even if they are reduced marginally -- they are reduced).
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