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Old 09-13-2021, 07:33 PM
 
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Interestingly, I don't know a single person in real life who thinks Covid and vaccines are a conspiracy. Most of my family and extended family lean hard left, while most of my friends/co-workers lean right. The seriousness of Covid is the only thing we all agree on. It bothers me a little that the C-D posters who I most often find myself agreeing with on a wide range of issues are some of the most vocal anti-masker/vaxxers on C-D.
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:34 PM
 
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I know I said I would have nothing to contribute, but Senator Ron Johnson has met with the families of the vaccine injured and is very "open minded" about this entire vaccine controversy.

Of course, Sen. Johnson has received a lot of criticism and push-back for this.
I didn't watch the video and I don't know what he said about the vaccine, but in general, Ron Johnson is bat-sht crazy!
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:37 PM
 
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You have to understand the powers that be, if there’s an underground network of elite people working in conjunction with agencies like the CIA and stuff like that? These people can make anything look any way they want it to look. .
There you go with that "elite" BS again.

"...make anything look any way they want it to look." Are you sure you're not on the wrong thread? There is a thread about the moon landing being faked.
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:37 PM
 
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I didn't watch the video and I don't know what he said about the vaccine, but in general, Ron Johnson is bat-sht crazy!
Just FYI, he spoke VERY little. He let those who adverse reactions do the talking.

And, just for the record, I don't think he is crazy at all.
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:39 PM
 
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My question back to you is WHO is carrying out these conspiracies? Who are these people that you think can influence world affairs on a global level? WHO are they?
I already asked this question and was told it is "The Elite"
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Old 09-13-2021, 07:52 PM
 
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There you go with that "elite" BS again.

"...make anything look any way they want it to look." Are you sure you're not on the wrong thread? There is a thread about the moon landing being faked.
They elite= coordinated efforts. And me thinks you understand this. If you can’t argue point for point then don’t argue at all.
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Old 09-13-2021, 08:10 PM
 
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Another is a biochemist, he made himself a billionaire by opening a fitness franchise. The fitness franchise has since fallen off and he’s retired from that, but he follows very closely what is going on. he basically spends his life traveling around the world doing charity work in poor countries. He too 100% feels that a conspiracy is underway. He feels it’s to reduce population. As he put it you can ask any scientist alive today with the number one issue facing the world is and they’ll tell you over population in global warming. You can fix both by killing 2/3 of the people on earth. Getting rid of them. And that’s what he thinks is happening. He went into specific detail as to how and why they’re doing it. Made sense to me.
I had a friend recently tell me something very similar, but that theory just doesn’t make sense to me. Let’s suppose the virus was indeed created in a lab and purposely released as a means of de-population. What I don’t understand is, given that the virus is now primarily killing those who are either unvaccinated or partially… how does the refusing the vaccine make sense of it means you (general “you”) are part of the population that is being culled by the virus? Unless the endgame is to eliminate the “free-thinkers” and narrow the population down to “sheep” who do what they are told. Rather diabolical, if not far-fetched.
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Old 09-13-2021, 08:25 PM
 
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I had a friend recently tell me something very similar, but that theory just doesn’t make sense to me. Let’s suppose the virus was indeed created in a lab and purposely released as a means of de-population. What I don’t understand is, given that the virus is now primarily killing those who are either unvaccinated or partially… how does the refusing the vaccine make sense of it means you (general “you”) are part of the population that is being culled by the virus? Unless the endgame is to eliminate the “free-thinkers” and narrow the population down to “sheep” who do what they are told. Rather diabolical, if not far-fetched.
Read about ADE, then come back and tell me how it doesn’t make sense. Also the first thing you need to realize this is like a 7 to 10 year plan. It’s not gonna happen instantaneously. But when it does happen it will happen quickly and abruptly and there won’t be time for any vengeance or fighting back and it will be done. A new world and a new beginning. The theory is that by taking all these vaccines and yes they will continue to come and so will the different waves of the virus variants…. is that you are training your immune system to recognize only the spikes or spike proteins within virus body. Got that so far? The proteins have spikes. They are extensions protruding from the outside of the virus body and allow it to invade other cells and reproduce. Your immune system is trained via the vaccine to recognize the spikes and then react. When you have natural immunity, your immune system recognizes the whole virus body and the spikes. It sees the whole virus not just the spikes.

So the theory is, they will introduce a virus type once everybody is vaccinated at some point that your immune system will literally have been trained not to see. It will invade the host and by the time your body and immune system realize something is going on, it will be too late. People will begin dying like flies. Now we are seeing some early indications of this happening already. And yes like everything else they’re keeping it quiet. Little pockets here and they’re scattered around the world are vaccinated people dying.

Do I know for a fact that this is the plan? Of course not. But if you start connecting your darts and get your head out of MSNBC news that is just feeding you propaganda you might start to connect some of these dots. There’s a reason why they don’t care that the vaccine is working and there’s a reason why they need everybody to get it. It. It’s not to stop covid Because they know it’s not going to do that. It’s never going to stop virus of this type.

Everyone out there just think the worlds going to continue as usual. No, we are in some kind of transitional phase. There’s no guarantee out there that the world has to and definitely support 8 to 9,000,000,000 people. Lol world history is full of tragedies. Full of errors of life that wiped out 70 to 80 to 90% of all human beings in different areas about the earth. This is really nothing new. When European settlers first came to South America they killed off 90% of the people with new viruses. It’s happened before and it’s going to happen again.

I don’t know if this is that time, but I know it’s near.
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Old 09-13-2021, 08:33 PM
 
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Read about ADE, then come back and tell me how it doesn’t make sense. Also the first thing you need to realize this is like a 7 to 10 year plan. It’s not gonna happen instantaneously. But when it does happen it will happen quickly and abruptly and there won’t be time for any vengeance or fighting back and it will be done. A new world and a new beginning. The theory is that by taking all these vaccines and yes they will continue to come and so will the different waves of the virus variants…. is that you are training your immune system to recognize only the spikes or spike proteins within virus body. Got that so far? The proteins have spikes. They are extensions protruding from the outside of the virus body and allow it to invade other cells and reproduce. Your immune system is trained via the vaccine to recognize the spikes and then react. When you have natural immunity, your immune system recognizes the whole virus body and the spikes. It sees the whole virus not just the spikes.

So the theory is, they will introduce a virus type once everybody is vaccinated at some point that your immune system will literally have been trained not to see. It will invade the host and by the time your body and immune system realize something is going on, it will be too late. People will begin dying like flies. Now we are seeing some early indications of this happening already. And yes like everything else they’re keeping it quiet. Little pockets here and they’re scattered around the world are vaccinated people dying.

Do I know for a fact that this is the plan? Of course not. But if you start connecting your darts and get your head out of MSNBC news that is just feeding you propaganda you might start to connect some of these dots. There’s a reason why they don’t care that the vaccine is working and there’s a reason why they need everybody to get it. It. It’s not to stop covid Because they know it’s not going to do that. It’s never going to stop virus of this type.

Everyone out there just think the worlds going to continue as usual. No, we are in some kind of transitional phase. There’s no guarantee out there that the world has to and definitely support 8 to 9,000,000,000 people. Lol world history is full of tragedies. Full of errors of life that wiped out 70 to 80 to 90% of all human beings in different areas about the earth. This is really nothing new. When European settlers first came to South America they killed off 90% of the people with new viruses. It’s happened before and it’s going to happen again.

I don’t know if this is that time, but I know it’s near.
Oh my, oh my, oh my!
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Old 09-14-2021, 04:53 AM
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Sure it is. That's why we're taking notes and modeling our response after Sweden, where deaths are down near zero. Oh wait, no we're not. We're inventing cockamamie excuses why Sweden's approach wouldn't have worked here, and we're twisting data to make it seem like their response was actually bad. Because they didn't follow the CCP-infused, never-existed-before-2020 "science" like closing down outdoor basketball hoops, putting one-way arrows on the floors of grocery stores, making people put on a mask for 20 seconds before taking it off to eat in a restaurant for two hours, etc.
Well to be fair he didn't mean the COVID pandemic he meant the pandemic of rebelliousness and individualism that's been plaguing our society for generations.
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