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How does that change the facts I gave you? You asked the specific question on when consciousness begins. Medically speaking, cognition forms around 24-28 weeks into gestation. That's not debatable, that's a fact. When we're debating when a fetus becomes a human, it's when (medically speaking) the fetus has cognition. If a fetus was removed from a mother prior to consciousness, and survived, great! That's not what we're discussing though.
You said prior to weeks 24 - 28 it’s just a “clump of cells”...yet babies are born before or within that time frame that are babies, not “clumps of cells.”
Cognitive brain function begins in a fetus around week 24-28 of gestation, so that's when a fetus becomes a human. Prior to that, it's just a clump of cells, not a human. It's logical to want to ban abortion after that point.
I am the father of two premature children.
As usual, you are wrong.
What I'd like to say to you I will keep to myself.
Cool story brah. Totally invented and unscientific but thanks for sharing. Can we abort all the adult libs who still haven’t developed “cognitive brain function”?
If you have medical or scientific data to suggest cognition begins earlier than I stated, I'd be interested in reading it.
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You said prior to weeks 24 - 28 it’s just a “clump of cells”...yet babies are born before or within that time frame that are babies, not “clumps of cells.”
Just because a baby is removed from a mother and kept alive with our modern technology does not mean there is cognition or consciousness, which is the topic I was responding to.
Just because a baby is removed from a mother and kept alive with our modern technology does not mean there is cognition or consciousness, which is the topic I was responding to.
Why do you keep saying “removed from the mother” like the baby was harvested? Babies are “born”, mothers “give birth”, etc.
We were also discussing souls. When do you suppose a baby gets it soul? Can science tell us that? Can you definitely say?
Why do you keep saying “removed from the mother” like the baby was harvested? Babies are “born”, mothers “give birth”, etc.
We were also discussing souls. When do you suppose a baby gets it soul? Can science tell us that? Can you definitely say?
What do you mean by a soul? That answer varies wildly depending on a person's beliefs/religion/etc. Tell me what you mean by a 'soul' and I can respond.
Ha! So now the left wants medical decisions to be made by an individual and their doctor?? Not the government? Not the employer? Hmm. What a concept. Is this the same left that is in favor of coerced Covid vaccinations? Abortion rights are about to be severely curtailed, and it couldn't happen to a better group of hypocrites. They don't seem particularly concerned that people around the world are forced to get mRNA injections. Some are cheering it on. So, cry me a river about 'forced births.'
No. We don't have a hive mind. We aren't all in favor of coerced anything. But I'm sure you'll ignore this. Or come back with some bullsh like "I didn't say all"
Sure, their bodies. However, there is another body involved. It’s absolutely disgusting to refer to a baby in its mother’s womb as a parasite.
I also take it you are against vaccine mandates?
We are talking about a situation in which an unwilling partner, the fetus/baby, is made biologically dependent on another individual for several months due solely to the decisions of the parents.
Because the fetus/baby finds itself in the biologically dependent situation it never agreed to be put in, the pro-abortion people claim it's OK to kill the fetus/baby because it's in the biologically dependent condition that it never agreed to be put in.
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