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Old 12-13-2021, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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This post is so utterly ridiculous it doesn't even deserve an answer. Same ol' Ell, coming from a place of total and complete brainwashing...
So there is no doubt in your mind that Trump won California? New York, too?

 
Old 12-13-2021, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Folks---this is yet ANOTHER EXAMPLE of the socialist Dems accusing Republicans of the VERY THINGS the Dems, themselves, are actually doing!! Democrats are masters of deception. Smoke and mirrors, in other words! NEVER trust a leftist! That includes Brandon and cackling Kamala!
So are Republican prosecutors fighting right back by filing vote fraud charges against Democrats? If not, Republicans are as bad as Democrats.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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It looks to me that ... unbeknownst to most decent people ... we have been at war, that is how some of those red hatters see it. They can't legally shoot Democrats, at least not yet ... so they must content themselves with subterfuge. These notorious few do it with a clear conscience, because they are thinking like a cult.

They don't give a damn about our democracy, they are fighting for something else.
I acknowledge we are in a political cold war.

Americans, specially republicans, conservatives, libertarians are in complete agreement that the constitution matters and it's the dems who OPENLY are attempting to subterfuge the constitution by any means necessary.

Sooner or later one side must prevail because this current situation is untenable. I'm betting on Americans not the marxist progressive dems.
Justice Breyer’s new warning for Democrats couldn’t have come at a worse time and the American democracy is in crisis. Breyer thinks now’s the time to scold his fellow liberals.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 12:10 PM
 
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I acknowledge we are in a political cold war.

Americans, specially republicans, conservatives, libertarians are in complete agreement that the constitution matters and it's the dems who OPENLY are attempting to subterfuge the constitution by any means necessary.

Sooner or later one side must prevail because this current situation is untenable....
Yet no evidence to support this fallacious claim has ever been offered for examination. The claim is entirely fiction. The 'cold war' was started by people who don't have a firm grasp on reality, but believe it because they want to. "Owning the Libs" seems to be such a high priority that facts do not matter anymore. Hate rules the day and affects you people's judgment.

You people are shadowboxing, taking swings at an imagined foe. Like Don Quixote tilting at windmills, you attack what you think you know but do not really understand.

For some reason Republicans are particularly susceptible to this sort of hoaxing. If you people really cared about it you would find out the people who are spreading these lies.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 12:38 PM
 
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Americans, specially republicans, conservatives, libertarians are in complete agreement that the constitution matters and it's the dems who OPENLY are attempting to subterfuge the constitution by any means necessary.
It's the Republicans who are anti-democracy. There were Republicans who openly called for state legislatures to throw out and override election results last year and hand the electoral college votes to Trump. Ignoring the will of the voters to keep your leader in power is unAmerican and is an example of right wing authoritarian tyranny.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 01:02 PM
 
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It's the Republicans who are anti-democracy. There were Republicans who openly called for state legislatures to throw out and override election results last year and hand the electoral college votes to Trump. Ignoring the will of the voters to keep your leader in power is unAmerican and is an example of right wing authoritarian tyranny.


Give it a rest

It was the democrats who ignored the will of the voters. Project much, do you?
 
Old 12-13-2021, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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Don't like the facts so you attack the poster? I'll set that aside. Let's stick to the facts.

How many Biden voters have been actually charged with voter fraud?
How many Trump voters have been actually charged with voter fraud?

If you do this research you'll find that Trump cheaters far outnumber Biden cheaters. Once that fact is established, again, I must ask, what is motivating some Trump voters to cast multiple ballots?

Well Trump did tell people to vote twice. Many did and some took it a little further. But thats ok in his areas he won in. The ones he lost in were rigged.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Florida
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It's the Republicans who are anti-democracy. There were Republicans who openly called for state legislatures to throw out and override election results last year and hand the electoral college votes to Trump. Ignoring the will of the voters to keep your leader in power is unAmerican and is an example of right wing authoritarian tyranny.
and yet... the dems said under no circumstance should Biden concede the election EVEN if the vote total was for Trump! This was BEFORE the election results were in. Did you forget that? You don't see the difference? where contesting an election is part of the process? but subverting the results before the results are in? that's OK with you?


How about the self proclaimed-non elected GA governor Stacy Abrams?

Just stop making a fool of yourself.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 02:37 PM
 
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Default Get off the soapbox

Voting by mail makes it easier to commit fraud, intimidate voters, and destroy the protections of the secret ballot. It puts elections into the hands of the Postal Service. Without the oversight of election and polling officials, ballots can be lost, disqualified, and even stolen.

When are you going to stop with bringing Trump up as a reason. Let's hear about all the wonderful accomplishments of your President Biden.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 02:42 PM
 
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and yet... the dems said under no circumstance should Biden concede the election EVEN if the vote total was for Trump! This was BEFORE the election results were in.

...
People say a lot of things. That doesn't mean it was ever going to happen. Plus, as we have seen, refusing to concede does not invalidate an election, it just makes one a sore loser. Democrats may cry foul but they still accept the results.

Probably more than anything else people remember how Trump won 2016 with foreign assistance, yet the Democratic candidate yielded graciously, essentially to preserve the institution of free elections and the peaceful transfer of power in our republic. No storming of the capitol, no scheming behind closed doors nor strong-arming political officials to switch electors.

The problem of foreign influence needs to be fixed, but the concept of free elections must be preserved. Otherwise it is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, not good.

This is not simple: how do we correct the dangerous vulnerability in our elections when the person who benefitted by those vulnerabilities has the power? Various Federal agencies and the many states did what they could despite the fact that the president was not supportive and viewed their efforts with disdain.

That's the problem: unhappy Democrats after all is said and done would yield to the election results and everyone knows it, unhappy Republicans would fight to overturn the election and everyone knows it. We already have the experience with both scenarios.
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