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Old 12-13-2021, 02:53 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ellwood View Post
Voting by mail makes it easier to commit fraud, intimidate voters, and destroy the protections of the secret ballot. It puts elections into the hands of the Postal Service. Without the oversight of election and polling officials, ballots can be lost, disqualified, and even stolen.

When are you going to stop with bringing Trump up as a reason. Let's hear about all the wonderful accomplishments of your President Biden.
We have a long history of voting by mail in this country, and have done so for over 150 years. It is safe and it works: for example Trump votes by mail, it's good enough for him but not you nor I? Kayleigh McEnany, as young as she is, had already voted by mail 10 times before 2020. Vote by mail is a well established practice and very secure.

In fact, mail in voting has traditionally benefitted Republicans more than Democrats, it is a well known phenomenon that political consultants have discussed for decades.

Several states vote by mail almost exclusively, and the move to that method was always with bi-partisan approval. They use it because it works.

In other words, you are repeating a myth and you have nothing to back up your mis-informed opinion.

 
Old 12-13-2021, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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People say a lot of things. That doesn't mean it was ever going to happen. Plus, as we have seen, refusing to concede does not invalidate an election, it just makes one a sore loser. Democrats may cry foul but they still accept the results.

Probably more than anything else people remember how Trump won 2016 with foreign assistance, yet the Democratic candidate yielded graciously, essentially to preserve the institution of free elections and the peaceful transfer of power in our republic. No storming of the capitol, no scheming behind closed doors nor strong-arming political officials to switch electors.

The problem of foreign influence needs to be fixed, but the concept of free elections must be preserved. Otherwise it is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, not good.

This is not simple: how do we correct the dangerous vulnerability in our elections when the person who benefitted by those vulnerabilities has the power? Various Federal agencies and the many states did what they could despite the fact that the president was not supportive and viewed their efforts with disdain.

That's the problem: unhappy Democrats after all is said and done would yield to the election results and everyone knows it, unhappy Republicans would fight to overturn the election and everyone knows it. We already have the experience with both scenarios.
So some people 'said something'... that's your response?

The foreign interference was a result of the DNC and Clinton sponsoring false claims of Russia-Russia-Russia. Remember the Clinton... smash-a-phone https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/...ion-nr-sot.cnn Dear lord you still can't buy into that crap?

We solve the foreign problem with election security. Free elections do not mean 'anyone' can vote... it means free and SECURE elections. They go hand-n-hand. The world has opinions and can interject it where and when they want, within the bounds of their domestic laws and ours.

Have you forgot the Bush-Gore debacle? Electoral College subversion? and you still have addressed the self anointed unelected governor of GA... Stacy.

Here's something to think about... A recent legal proceeding in Florida proves the cheap, theatrical partisanship driving nationwide Democrat attacks on election integrity. Priorities USA, a Democrat super PAC, sued the state of Florida, claiming it made voting-by-mail too difficult. One of the plaintiffs, a Yale graduate student, was asked in a deposition to explain why returning his ballot was difficult. ​He explained it was a 30-minute walk to his nearest post office. He was then asked if he knew of Google and if he had used it to look for a closer mailbox. He stated that he had not used Google or done any other research to find closer mailboxes. The student was unaware of the USPS mailbox six blocks away from his apartment or that he could use the mailbox at his apartment complex. This disastrous deposition could have been the reason the Democrats gave up on the case, walking away before the trial even began.

In a nut shell
 
Old 12-13-2021, 04:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
We have a long history of voting by mail in this country, and have done so for over 150 years. It is safe and it works: for example Trump votes by mail, it's good enough for him but not you nor I? Kayleigh McEnany, as young as she is, had already voted by mail 10 times before 2020. Vote by mail is a well established practice and very secure.

In fact, mail in voting has traditionally benefitted Republicans more than Democrats, it is a well known phenomenon that political consultants have discussed for decades.

Several states vote by mail almost exclusively, and the move to that method was always with bi-partisan approval. They use it because it works.

In other words, you are repeating a myth and you have nothing to back up your mis-informed opinion.
This scam and voter fraud only works with "vote by mail".

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021...stigators-say/
 
Old 12-13-2021, 09:34 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Interesting, none of the DNC sock puppets posting here have voiced any support for election integrity efforts like the measures passed in GA, FL and TX. I wonder why?
 
Old 12-13-2021, 10:07 PM
 
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Give it a rest

It was the democrats who ignored the will of the voters. Project much, do you?
Meaning what ?

Are you claiming that Trump got more votes than Biden in 2020.
 
Old 12-13-2021, 10:34 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Meaning what ?

Are you claiming that Trump got more votes than Biden in 2020.
No, but more people voted for Trump.
 
Old 12-14-2021, 12:32 AM
 
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No, but more people voted for Trump.
reality begs to differ.
 
Old 12-14-2021, 07:40 AM
 
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So some people 'said something'... that's your response?

The foreign interference was a result of the DNC and Clinton sponsoring false claims of Russia-Russia-Russia. ...
The claims about Russia are not false, they really and truly did intervene on behalf of Trump.

They wanted their dupe in office, and they got him into office. You fell for their dis-information campaign, so you are part of the problem.
 
Old 12-14-2021, 07:43 AM
 
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...

Are you claiming that Trump got more votes than Biden in 2020.
No, but more people voted for Trump.
False.

Again, you people have been hoaxed. You should feel as foolish as you look to the rest of the world, but you are so poorly informed that it is impossible for you to know.
 
Old 12-14-2021, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Hesychios View Post
The claims about Russia are not false, they really and truly did intervene on behalf of Trump.

They wanted their dupe in office, and they got him into office. You fell for their dis-information campaign, so you are part of the problem.
Seriously? lol... that's pathetic and straight from the annals of CNN. You really need to put that one back in the closet.

What about ole Stacy? don't wanna touch that one?
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