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Old 12-13-2021, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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COVID was used to as an experiment/exercise in control all over the world. What was learned? The Australians would willingly march into death chambers, if their government told them "it's only a shower"... Same in China. But everyone already expected that. That's probably why our corporations love to send their jobs over there...





Many companies highly value control. They will take as much as they can get, if you give it to them. It might start with something innocent enough... "It's just a little poke"... It's where it inevitably leads that's the real problem.







If a company has the right to test you for alcohol, than they have a right to test you for marijuana. Alcohol is legal in all 50 states after all... You have a right not to take the test, to work somewhere else, etc. They can't force you to do something you don't want to do, and just the same, you don't get to tell them how to run their business. Neither does Joe Biden with his absurd dictator mandates. He should go back to the nursing home where he belongs.
If they tested for marijuana in our plant they'd end up firing half the employees, which is why they don't. Besides it's the drunks that cause more lost time in the plant. The potheads show up every day.
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:06 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I have more respect for the companies that never jumped in line with the Presidential mandate.

The other "chicken" companies jumped right in line and when the court stopped the mandate they backed out.

It's not about people and it's not about health. It's about control.
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:11 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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It's falling apart in the UK as well, BTW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiIvIK2fNhU


As bleak as it seems, we're winning.
No, we're not really "winning". Yes the courts stopped it but it went that far and so many companies quickly jumped on board.

Just highlights how much control governments and companies think they have over people.

The states that passed laws to prohibit the mandates are examples of "us winning" as we elect our government.

And I'm proud to live in a state where the Governor said he would fight the mandate "to the gates of hell".
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:48 AM
 
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No, we're not really "winning".

Gotta happily disagree.


A Federalist poll from back on 11/29 showed only about 6% of the population now considers COVID a top priority voting issue.


Inflation and the economy came in first with everyone, followed by "individual freedoms" for a majority of Independents and Republicans.


Even on the Left, the top issue was "Climate Change".


People are done with this nonsense. It's just the media gaslighting us into believing otherwise, and the nuttiest voices always being the loudest.
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Old 12-13-2021, 08:56 AM
 
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No, we're not really "winning". Yes the courts stopped it but it went that far and so many companies quickly jumped on board.

Just highlights how much control governments and companies think they have over people.

The states that passed laws to prohibit the mandates are examples of "us winning" as we elect our government.

And I'm proud to live in a state where the Governor said he would fight the mandate "to the gates of hell".
My fear or even theory is, so we pushed back and maybe we pushed back more than they had hoped for. And so now they’re like, “oh really you common stupid people think you don’t have to listen to us will show you“ and then they released some thing that is truly deadly. We all know they have the capacity and capability of doing that. We also know they don’t care about human life at all. People say “what wouldn’t they be endangering their own selves? No, did you see how scared of Covid they were? Chances are there’s a vaccine or therapeutic for them that we don’t know about. Fauci was behind this covid adventure as it is, he’s all about control, being worshiped and saving face. That little weasel is easily capable of thinking he’s god and arranging something truly deadly be released on the world… The people that we have allowed to be in power in this country are perfectly capable of such a scenario.

And then I won’t even get into the cover-up aspect of all this. Stuff like where slick Willy was sticking his penis for decades. Epstein etc, if you don’t think the elite and government officials in the deep state that was involved with all that stuff wouldn’t create a worldwide crisis to cover up? You are fooling yourselves.

We Had the chance to clean the swamp out and get rid of all these nasty people and we chose not to. And that’s why at the end of the day I blame the American people for the situation they find themselves in now and going forward.
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:00 AM
 
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Now all they have to do is stop testing for marijuana in states that have decided use of marijuana should be legal.
Testing is for work safety, not to out marijuana smokers.
Companies that test get a break on the Workmans Comp insurance.
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:14 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Gotta happily disagree.


A Federalist poll from back on 11/29 showed only about 6% of the population now considers COVID a top priority voting issue.


Inflation and the economy came in first with everyone, followed by "individual freedoms" for a majority of Independents and Republicans.


Even on the Left, the top issue was "Climate Change".


People are done with this nonsense. It's just the media gaslighting us into believing otherwise, and the nuttiest voices always being the loudest.
Look the President tried something he's not allowed to do.
Congress said and did nothing.
Companies and state governments jumped on board before it was even made official by OSHA.

If anything I think it's a temporary victory because of the courts.

I am happy to see that people are fighting back.
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:17 AM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Testing is for work safety, not to out marijuana smokers.
Companies that test get a break on the Workmans Comp insurance.
Problem is you may have smoked on Saturday but will test positive on Monday.

Testing just says someone smoked sometime in the last 30 days.
Testing is not used for "oh you are high right now".
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Old 12-13-2021, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Testing is for work safety, not to out marijuana smokers.
Companies that test get a break on the Workmans Comp insurance.
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Problem is you may have smoked on Saturday but will test positive on Monday.

Testing just says someone smoked sometime in the last 30 days.
Testing is not used for "oh you are high right now".
I know the reason they test for marijuana is for the workers' comp break; but as TMSRetired pointed out, testing for marijuana differs from alcohol since it does not test whether someone is impaired at the moment, unlike testing for alcohol.

Btw, I don't smoke marijuana so this isn't an issue of self-interest.

But what the issue does have in common with the vaccine mandates is that they both needlessly minimize the pool of candidates for a company, which seems particularly counterproductive right now when so many are looking to hire.
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Old 12-13-2021, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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And what happens? nothing!
Trump is a career con man
Biden is a career corrupt politician and racist.After almost 50 years in office when he is in severe mental decline at best he becomes president.
Fauci has had his job for 40 ish years.

And there are plenty more career corrupt politicians who have been in office for decades with zero accountability.
and nothing gets done. I should have added that at the end of my sentence. Along with that the deep state seeks to institute more controls on social media to prevent people from exercising any critical thinking skills whatsoever. No questioning the establishment narrative is welcome. You think the internet is sanitized now just wait. In another 10 years forums like these will be gone. Any non progressive, non establishment speech will be censored. The activities of the deep state can then go on without anybody exposing them. A red wave is the only chance we have, and even that is not a guarantee.
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