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Old 01-24-2022, 08:21 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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that's a good point, and means delving into the study. I certainly don't trust the "journalists" to get the details and wording right.
I didn't go super far down that particular rabbit hole, but it seems like an apples/oranges comparison.

Comparing infection rates to hospitalization rates of infected people. Connected, but not the same metric.
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Old 01-24-2022, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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quietly yesterday, the CDC released an updated study.

https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2022...4391642624748/

Now, CNN and all those they provide news to entitled the article thusly:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/01/...or-infections/

Study: Vaccination protects against Covid-19 hospitalization significantly more than prior infections


unfortunately, in their own text for anyone willing to read ...



but really, read the study to see what it says. We all know journalists, especially those masquerading at CNN, don't always know what they're writing about.
Well, consider that the current vaccines and boosters are based upon a variant of COVID which is over two years, and they do not protect very well at all against the newer variant... If you catch omicron, your immunity to COVID is probably 1,000 times better, and will obviously last longer than these vaccines you took last year.
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Old 01-24-2022, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Southeast US
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I didn't go super far down that particular rabbit hole, but it seems like an apples/oranges comparison.

Comparing infection rates to hospitalization rates of infected people. Connected, but not the same metric.
actually ... and I too still haven't fully-digested the study

From May - Nov, roughly (there's 1 # for CA and a different one for NY):

Unvaxxed was 19x case rate of Vaxxed/No Infection, 8x prior infection, vaxxed or not.

So, for the whole period, having been never infected but being vaxxed was BEST for not catching Covid.

From Oct 3 on (their date):

Unvaxxed were 6x case rate of vaxxed/no infection but 20x equally of prior infection, vaxxed or not.

Further, for the entire May-Nov for hospitalizations:

A prior infection, vaxxed or not, was a 0.3 incidence. Vaxxed, no infection was a higher, 0.7 incidence. Unvaxxed and no prior, the highest at 11.3.

So, (over?)simply put - prior infection was a determining factor and the BEST, regardless of vaccination status. Vaccinated but no infection was really good, but not AS GOOD. And no vax/no infection was the worst.

Now, I'm not mathematically-inclined to be able to figure out what exactly the % of cases that became hospitalized was. But we know that total hospitalizations are in the neighborhood of 6%. That would say to me that prior-infected are hospitalized well below 1%.
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Old 01-24-2022, 11:30 AM
 
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How long afterwards is a person with a mild case expected to be safe from reinfection? Does the intensity of the first infection impact the strength/length of immunity afterwards/
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Old 01-24-2022, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Even if that were true it’s meaningless, contracting Covid is not a solution.
It is a solution for those unvaccinated recovered based on the CDC's study. Vaccination offers no additional protection for that category.
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Old 01-24-2022, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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that's a good point, and means delving into the study. I certainly don't trust the "journalists" to get the details and wording right.
John Campbell dived into the CDC study and provides his analysis here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25-iJKPA1CA&t=870s

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Old 01-24-2022, 03:48 PM
 
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We went from 98% protection from Covid with the vaxx to to 98% mild cases with the vaxx.
They pull these statistics and studies out of their asses and think we're all dumb enough to believe any of it is true.
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Old 01-25-2022, 06:47 AM
 
Location: South of Mason Dixie!
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John Campbell dived into the CDC study and provides his analysis here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25-iJKPA1CA&t=870s
Thanks for sharing. I follow Dr. Campbell, Dr. Moran and Dr. Dhand about vaccinations/natural immunity.
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Old 01-27-2022, 05:24 AM
 
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It is finally coming out and the natural immunity deniers have egg on their face (as most intelligent and scientist knew);


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25-iJKPA1CA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zGXX6kDPBs


Even those who have had a common cold caused by a corona virus had natural immunity to Covid. In this video it is discussed at 10:30 if you want to jump ahead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrVGymR-jFU&t=634s
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