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Old 02-01-2022, 03:47 PM
 
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Or I was? You were the one that brought it up.

Insurrections are not always violent, as I had previously pointed out. And there was an the insurrection attempts against Trump that was done by the Dems and their media. But as far as violent, as in beating on others, yes there was, by antifa blm.
Well somebody was talking about an insurrection against Trump. Maybe it wasn't you, but that's the post I was responding to.

 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:02 PM
 
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Are Trump supporters that deluded that they cannot see that Trump is using them like a coward would use a child by holding it up in front of him to protect him from a gunman's bullets????????? Trump doesn't care in the least about his supporters. He only finds utility in their existence by using them to get what's beneficial for him and no one else.

How can Trump's supporters not see what is there in plain sight--that personally Trump couldn't care less about them except to exist as tools for his personal gain? I am mystified.
This has always been one of the puzzles. It is obvious that in the end Trump or his successor will dump his supporters into the ditch once they have outlived their usefulness. Yes there may be a few key positions in the halls of power, but the average red-hat out in the Midwest will be of little use to him once real elections are a thing of the past. Why would he need them? He sure won't need their pathetic pop-gun militias if he can corrupt the US military to become the ultimate police force in the ultimate police state.

The question is why would they follow someone like Trump who will forever damage and devastate the very country that provides their security and their prosperity? The answer to this question lies in the psychology of cultism or fanaticism. It's the same reason why people followed Jim Jones into suicide, the same reason why Germans followed Hitler into a catastrophic war.

Following Trump "feels good" for the moment; hate of a imagined enemy or threat unifies them into a sense of brotherhood, very similar to the reason why gangs are attractive to some. None of these reasons are rational, but human beings as we can see by reading any history book are not particularly far-seeing, and they can be easily manipulated even by the most simple-minded propaganda.

I doubt seriously that Trump actually understands the psychology of manipulation and deliberately uses it to his advantage, it just comes naturally to him.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:12 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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This has always been one of the puzzles. It is obvious that in the end Trump or his successor will dump his supporters into the ditch once they have outlived their usefulness. Yes there may be a few key positions in the halls of power, but the average red-hat out in the Midwest will be of little use to him once real elections are a thing of the past. Why would he need them? He sure won't need their pathetic pop-gun militias if he can corrupt the US military to become the ultimate police force in the ultimate police state.

The question is why would they follow someone like Trump who will forever damage and devastate the very country that provides their security and their prosperity? The answer to this question lies in the psychology of cultism or fanaticism. It's the same reason why people followed Jim Jones into suicide, the same reason why Germans followed Hitler into a catastrophic war.

Following Trump "feels good" for the moment; hate of a imagined enemy or threat unifies them into a sense of brotherhood, very similar to the reason why gangs are attractive to some. None of these reasons are rational, but human beings as we can see by reading any history book are not particularly far-seeing, and they can be easily manipulated even by the most simple-minded propaganda.

I doubt seriously that Trump actually understands the psychology of manipulation and deliberately uses it to his advantage, it just comes naturally to him.
Hilarious.

You don't realize you've been completely manipulated by the Democrats, social media, legacy media, and every Marxist-dominated institution in the country, do you?

TRUMP has the ability to psychologically manipulate millions into voting for him, yet the 81M (lol) who supposedly voted for Biden were just exercising their individual choice. Again, you are hilarious. Unintentionally.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:16 PM
 
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This has always been one of the puzzles. It is obvious that in the end Trump or his successor will dump his supporters into the ditch once they have outlived their usefulness. Yes there may be a few key positions in the halls of power, but the average red-hat out in the Midwest will be of little use to him once real elections are a thing of the past. Why would he need them? He sure won't need their pathetic pop-gun militias if he can corrupt the US military to become the ultimate police force in the ultimate police state.

The question is why would they follow someone like Trump who will forever damage and devastate the very country that provides their security and their prosperity? The answer to this question lies in the psychology of cultism or fanaticism. It's the same reason why people followed Jim Jones into suicide, the same reason why Germans followed Hitler into a catastrophic war.

Following Trump "feels good" for the moment; hate of a imagined enemy or threat unifies them into a sense of brotherhood, very similar to the reason why gangs are attractive to some. None of these reasons are rational, but human beings as we can see by reading any history book are not particularly far-seeing, and they can be easily manipulated even by the most simple-minded propaganda.

I doubt seriously that Trump actually understands the psychology of manipulation and deliberately uses it to his advantage, it just comes naturally to him.
Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

Maybe you forget david "camera" hogg and greta thunberg? You know those 2 very young folks the left used and when they provided nothing they were no longer used?
 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:21 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Yeah... it sure was dangerous back when we had an acceptable economy and individual liberty.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Basically what you are demanding is the GOP forfeit the next election. That's exactly what would happen if they booted him from the party. He would run as an independent, take a whole lot of votes away from the GOP, and they both would lose together. I'm not getting into the tastefulness of Trump's actions and rhetoric. He clearly has a vast and sizable following that likes what he has to say, regardless of what you think. He is a free citizen and as such, he is free to hold rallies and say whatever he wants to say. I'm not sure what the justification would be for denying him that right.



You call Trump autocratic, but demand the right to behave like an autocrat. Sounds a little hypocritical to me, but I can see why you would like this to happen. If only eliminating your political rivals were that easy...
The problem is at this point Trump is the GOP. The GOP could have ripped the bandage off with Trump on January 7th and many did call for it, even Sen. Graham. The problem is they turned away from that when Trump was impeached. I know, I know "It was a politicized impeachment." I really don't think so. Think of it this way, should Biden done what Trump did when he is up for re-election in 2024, I HIGHLY DOUBT the Republicans would call it "a politicized impeachment." You cannot attack the left if you cannot hold yourself to the same standards. Look at the attacks on Rep. Omar and Rep. Tlaib who are attacked for being anti-Semitic, yet you cannot hold Rep. Green or Rep. Boehbert to the same standards? The GOP is a bunch of cowards and hypocrites. They honestly would have done better to do what you said and "forfeit the next election" because the DNA is tainted and cannot be taken seriously outside of their base.

Now yes, the Democrats aren't a better option, but the GOP have nothing to offer other than obstruction, red meat, and hypocrisy.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:39 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Trump 2024

Prosecution for schiff, pelosi, nadler, comey mcabe and wray for attempted insurrection of a sitting president!!!!!
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An insurrection is a violent uprising. There was never a violent uprising against Trump.
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Well somebody was talking about an insurrection against Trump. Maybe it wasn't you, but that's the post I was responding to.
And I was responding to your post.
Basically you were skewing what that poster had said, since insurrections are not always violent.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:54 PM
 
Location: HONOLULU
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He's off the ballot forever. If in case he thinks he can buy another election. So no problem with fooling the nation again. Another campaign. But he was impeached. So that it that. He inherited all his property. Investment property. He was born into a rich family. They just passed it down to his generation to take over properties from their businesses. All his life he was rich. He cannot just buy off another round of election and fool the public. That won't work.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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For all the partisan bickering, one cannot determine which party is pro-American.
Can anyone please point out which party or wing supports securing the Creator endowed rights of the American people?
I am not referring to the "Tax and Bribe" socialist entitlement system. I'm referring to the one that adjudicates disputes, prosecutes criminals and defends against all enemies, foreign or domestic - and nothing more without express consent of the governed... you know... the republican form, guaranteed by Art. 4, Sec. 4, USCON.
 
Old 02-01-2022, 04:58 PM
 
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Orange man bad!
If the vax doesn't kill the Lefties, TDS will.
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