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Old 04-12-2022, 08:25 AM
 
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So, the CDC doesn't back up your off the rails 'human fetus are parasites' schtick, eh?
I linked to show you what the science says.

 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:27 AM
 
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We can keep using these numbers to make the points, but they will just shrug them off....the left always just ignores what they don't want to hear.
When one makes an assertion, it's standard practice if one wants credibility, to give citations. The poster didn't, so that would appear that they pulled a number out of a hat.

I shrug off anyone's throwaway number if they are not cited.
 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:32 AM
 
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That is not the scientific definition of parasite. It's the watered down CDC version for people with a 6th grade education.

The true definition of parasite does not apply to babies.
Wrong.

Here... real science:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28712140/

More real science:

https://www.reading.ac.uk/news-archi...es/pr9938.html
 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:32 AM
 
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Updated figures...
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4416399/

Still true that 95% of all unintended pregnancies are due to lack of use of any birth control whatsoever (52%), or the incorrect/inconsistent use of birth control (43%).
From your link (BTW the Guttmacher link does not state that)

Contraception, unintended pregnancy, and abortion, though distinct, are interrelated. Forty-three percent of unintended pregnancies are due to inconsistent or incorrect contraceptive use, and another 52% are due to non-use (Sonfield, Hasstedt, & Gold, 2014). Many unintended pregnancies end in abortion. Specifically, 40% of unintended pregnancies, excluding miscarriages, end in abortion, and 95% of abortions result from unintended pregnancies (Finer & Zolna, 2011).

This is unintended pregnancies, not abortions. Most pregnancies are unintended. At the very least couples are not trying to prevent pregnancy.

40% of these unintended pregnancies end in abortion.
 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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And there it is.

Abortions are needed because women are idiots.
Yes. A lot of women are idiots. Also, a lot of men are idiots.

How do you fix that? I have no idea. Do you?
 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:36 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I can agree with that. But if you get pregnant, does it matter if it was because you didn't use birth control or that you used birth control and it failed? Pregnant is pregnant.

Unless, of course, you want to start making a distinction between who "deserves" an abortion and who doesn't. Is a woman who doesn't use birth control or forgets to use it now a sl*t and undeserving of any help? Do you want her to have the baby to "teach her a lesson"? Is that where you're going with this?
Nope. That is where you're going, in your attempt to twist my words.


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Gamble away. But do it with your life. Don't expect me to play the worse odds just because you have a bee in your bonnet about how you think I should live my life.

"Pregnancy riskier to women's health than abortion

Carrying a pregnancy to term is 33 times riskier than having an abortion, with 0.6 maternal deaths per 100,000 abortions compared to 20.1 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births, according to the Centers for Disease Control."
"Gamble away. But do it with your life."
^Exactly this! With that comment, are you now admitting to being a hypocrite?

When people have sex, especially unprotected sex, there could always be the possibility of gambling with a life other than their own.

Personal responsibility is a thing. Sadly it seems that many think they should be able to do whatever they want without being responsible for the outcome.
 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:37 AM
 
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A fetus is a not a parasite. A fetus is the same human life form as it’s mother. A fetus is not harming it’s mom by growing in her womb and there are actually mutual benefits to mom and baby making it not a parasitic relationship.

This push to try to paint a fetus as a parasite is just gross.
 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:39 AM
 
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A parasite causes harm to a host. Parasites release toxins into the host that make the host sick or kills them.

Your lack of scientific understanding is only paralleled by your lack of understanding of the Bible.

No matter how much you flail about, no matter what word salad you vomit onto C-D, a baby is a baby.

And always will be.
 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Again your plan to make the irresponsible, responsible? Do you think irresponsible people make great parents?


The irresponsible, by definition, are not thoughtful people.

And yes, they would probably make ****-poor parents, but to attempt to use their delinquent nature as a justification for giving them the authority to kill a child is absolutely Orwellian.

When the most irresponsible individuals in our society have to pay the full price for their ****-up-isms, there will be far fewer incidents of them ****ing up.
 
Old 04-12-2022, 08:40 AM
 
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A fetus is a not a parasite. A fetus is the same human life form as it’s mother. A fetus is not harming it’s mom by growing in her womb and there are actually mutual benefits to mom and baby making it not a parasitic relationship.

This push to try to paint a fetus as a parasite is just gross.
It's also 100% incorrect.

A 5th grader taking a science test could tell him that.
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