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Old 05-20-2022, 03:39 PM
 
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How do you define "slave culture"?
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Old 05-20-2022, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I think about what is coined as "chitlin culture". The type of culture found in the American ghettos. It's most prevalent among the Black underclass. I think about where this culture came from. This didn't just develop overnight. A synopsis: Some the of tenets of ghetto culture, or "chitlin culture" date back to the 19th century South. Alot of it came out of slavery. I know many people don't want to hear that. However, in order to solve a problem, one has understand where this problem came from.

The "chitlin culture" I'm talking about refers mainly to ghetto culture, and not Black culture as whole. Jazz, R&B, HBCUs, that isn't part of the chitlin culture. I was speaking with another Black man about some bad things that go on in a specific segment of the Black population, as well as some other bad things. We both agreed that ghetto culture is really "redneck culture" that made its way to the cities. Some of the worst aspects of ghetto culture borrowed from underclass southern society in the 19th century. Combination of the slave culture and the underclass southern culture, and then city life. Ralph_Kirk is an inspiration behind this thread.
I my circle of black friends and family, we refer to it as a different culture. I don't think I can say it on here. We use the -as- ending and not the hard "r".
 
Old 05-20-2022, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Tupelo, Ms
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Afram culture is roots were definitely forged during the enslavement period yet it's highly diverse. Many people recite the stripping away of culture which I think isn't entirely accurate. About 48, more or less, different african ethnic cultures of various size groups, timeframe of arrival, significant events that shape the ancestry of Aframs.The modification & adaptation of the Anglo & Indigenous cultures further a unique development.

Afram culture have carry values of independence, resilience, spirituality, & ingenuity since the foundation of the united states.

What we're seemingly speaking on today's caricature culture is moreso rooted in the ghetto.
 
Old 05-20-2022, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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GM & RK ~

I saw this and immediately thought of this thread.

Any comments?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPk2F3rxetk
 
Old 05-20-2022, 08:27 PM
 
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Creation of welfare and destruction of the black family. It was done in the 60s, and the effects were visible in the 70s.



Somehow we need to get the family structure right first. It was right in the 50s and early 60s and there was very little poverty.
Black families were already in a precarious state. Divorce rates for Black couples were higher than for any other group back then. Rates of fatherless homes, single motherhood, and out of wedlock births were already higher for Blacks than anyone else. And poverty rates for Blacks were higher than anyone else in America back in the 1950s and 60s.
 
Old 05-20-2022, 08:29 PM
 
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Afram culture is roots were definitely forged during the enslavement period yet it's highly diverse. Many people recite the stripping away of culture which I think isn't entirely accurate. About 48, more or less, different african ethnic cultures of various size groups, timeframe of arrival, significant events that shape the ancestry of Aframs.The modification & adaptation of the Anglo & Indigenous cultures further a unique development.

Afram culture have carry values of independence, resilience, spirituality, & ingenuity since the foundation of the united states.

What we're seemingly speaking on today's caricature culture is moreso rooted in the ghetto.
It is the ghetto culture, the "chitlin culture" that Ralph_Kirk mentions, that we're specifically discussing. And the influence of that culture needs to be minimized drastically.
 
Old 05-20-2022, 08:38 PM
 
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I my circle of black friends and family, we refer to it as a different culture. I don't think I can say it on here. We use the -as- ending and not the hard "r".
As represented by the Christ Rock routine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJ...calGameReviews
 
Old 05-20-2022, 08:48 PM
 
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As represented by the Christ Rock routine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJ...calGameReviews
That's right. There is the Black culture that we are a part of. And then there is the chitlin culture. And that chitlin culture, I'd be happy for it to go away, or at the very least, not have it commoditized.
 
Old 05-20-2022, 08:49 PM
 
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Afram culture is roots were definitely forged during the enslavement period yet it's highly diverse. Many people recite the stripping away of culture which I think isn't entirely accurate. About 48, more or less, different african ethnic cultures of various size groups, timeframe of arrival, significant events that shape the ancestry of Aframs.The modification & adaptation of the Anglo & Indigenous cultures further a unique development.
It would up to you to actually trace evidences of what I called deep culture to African roots, rather than merely assert it. If ADOS don't actually think like Africans, if we don't share the inner world view of Africans, have the same concepts of honor, justice, good, and evil--and we certainly don't--then we don't actually share African culture. We can ask African immigrants if ADOS people are like them, and they will say, "No."

Afram culture have carry values of independence, resilience, spirituality, & ingenuity since the foundation of the united states.

What we're seemingly speaking on today's caricature culture is moreso rooted in the ghetto.[/quote]

That "caricature culture" is a slave culture that was inculcated into us for 300 years, and then continually enforced by Jim Crow for another century. And, yes, it is a caricature of a culture. A real culture will self-sustain its people beneficently, which this one does not.

It's a sinking boat. The questions we're getting to now are:

Can we fix this boat?

Or should we abandon it for a boat that floats?

If so, which one--an expedient boat that is immediately available or an idyllic boat that we aspire to build ourselves?

And how do we encourage ADOS people to climb into that boat?
 
Old 05-21-2022, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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As represented by the Christ Rock routine.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJ...calGameReviews
I don’t remember this. I must be too young to have seen this but he’s saying exactly what I was referring to. Ain’t that something.
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