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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
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Old 02-10-2024, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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The Disheveled One tries to refute claim we all know to be true. That's Boris.


https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...579909017?s=20
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Old 02-10-2024, 07:17 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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..........A quick history lesson tells us Russia and China would rather nuke the world, than allow its neighboring countries to be pro-western democracies.

There is no amount of aid that will change that red line.
Huh!? I missed it. When did Russia and China nuke the world?
Ukraine is pro-western. Finland. Georgia, even. But I just can't quite remember Russia nuking the world to prevent it.


That's not a history lesson. It's a fairy tale.
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Old 02-10-2024, 07:21 AM
 
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I want to say again that without the direct participation of the US Army there will be no victory. Are we ready
to die for a justice and democracy?

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It is a fantasy that this war is about 'justice & democracy'.

Russia is a strategic rival and bleeding them is the goal.
Ukraine is a nation that we must PRETEND to care about in order to continue to use them as the cudgel.

What better for the US to have a rival nation like Russia expending some of its resources and manpower fighting a nation we don't actually care about.

In a smoke-filled room there must be some long-term strategy being discussed by US analysts, and I'm convinced it has nothing to do with 'justice and democracy'. That is the type of talk the US public must continue to hear in order to not revolt against 100's of billions being sent abroad when we have plenty of ways to spend the money domestically.
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Old 02-10-2024, 07:27 AM
 
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Huh!? I missed it. When did Russia and China nuke the world?
Ukraine is pro-western. Finland. Georgia, even. But I just can't quite remember Russia nuking the world to prevent it.


That's not a history lesson. It's a fairy tale.
Yeah, Putin bots are imaginative, aren't they? Take China for example. Its neighbors Vietnam, India, South Korea, and Japan are fairly pro-Western. China hasn't nuked them.

Similarly, some of Russia's neighbors have been NATO countries for decades. Both sides co-exist peacefully. It wasn't until Putin invaded Ukraine and started throwing nuke scares around and his army of bots spread it around online that we now constantly hear about Russia nuking other countries.
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Old 02-10-2024, 08:04 AM
 
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Does anyone have any clue on a distance, certain missiles can cover in a certain period of time?
Until those particular missiles were NOT in the "neighbouring" countries or, were on the safe distance, there was no issue.
The very moment they were supposed to cross the red issue line, problems arose.
Gods, why I'm even wasting time on such trivia.
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Old 02-10-2024, 08:06 AM
 
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Are they being cloned?

Picture below shows:

Head of EU Council Charle Michelle
Ukraine Prime Minister Denis Shmygal
Ukraine minister of Defence Alexi Reznikov.

Same mama or something?
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Old 02-10-2024, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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It is a fantasy that this war is about 'justice & democracy'.

Russia is a strategic rival and bleeding them is the goal.
Ukraine is a nation that we must PRETEND to care about in order to continue to use them as the cudgel.

What better for the US to have a rival nation like Russia expending some of its resources and manpower fighting a nation we don't actually care about.

In a smoke-filled room there must be some long-term strategy being discussed by US analysts, and I'm convinced it has nothing to do with 'justice and democracy'. That is the type of talk the US public must continue to hear in order to not revolt against 100's of billions being sent abroad when we have plenty of ways to spend the money domestically.

The psychopaths in the West have no plan or grand strategy.
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Old 02-10-2024, 11:48 AM
 
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Yeah, Putin bots are imaginative, aren't they? Take China for example. Its neighbors Vietnam, India, South Korea, and Japan are fairly pro-Western. China hasn't nuked them.

Similarly, some of Russia's neighbors have been NATO countries for decades. Both sides co-exist peacefully. It wasn't until Putin invaded Ukraine and started throwing nuke scares around and his army of bots spread it around online that we now constantly hear about Russia nuking other countries.

Do you mean the Baltic States? They've been discriminating against their Russian minority populations for ages now. Estonia recently told the clergy of the Russian Orthodox Church to leave their country. There have been controversies surroundings some of the monuments in Estonia like the Lihula Memorial that allegedly memorialised, in part, Waffen-SS soldiers.
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Old 02-10-2024, 01:00 PM
 
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Something's brewing in the front line after several months of "Quiet on the Eastern front".
Chasov Yar has order to evacuate completely. Apparently, there is RAF offensive from the Bakhmut side towards the town.
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Old 02-10-2024, 07:38 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67949942

So how many civilians has Russia illegally detained?

"...According to the Ukrainian government, as of November 2023 there were 4,337 Ukrainians in Russian captivity. Most were military personnel, but 763 were civilians. However, there is no official list of their names and Ukrainian authorities rely on data from the Red Cross.
The Red Cross can't always gain access to the places where Ukrainians are held in Russia, let alone in the occupied territories where unofficial detention facilities can include basements in hotels and abandoned buildings. The Ukrainian Parliament Commissioner for Human Rights Dmytro Lubinets says that the figure could be much higher, with a total number of missing civilians estimated at 25,000.
The BBC has asked the Russian defence ministry to disclose how many Ukrainian civilians are being detained and where they are being held but we have had no response.
Under Russian law, a person can only be detained for 48 hours without a court order and records must be kept. Last year Russian President Putin extended the period to 30 days in occupied areas of Ukraine for serious offences or violating wartime prohibitions or restrictions.
But often the time, place and grounds for detention are not being recorded, no criminal or administrative cases are opened, and no investigations are conducted, according to court papers reviewed by the BBC...."
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