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That doesn't conflict with anything I said. It goes back to what I said that the border will never never never be closed, because the Republican owned corporations will always demand that there be holes in it so their cheap Mexican labor can get to work. And don't give me any BS that the wages will go up without foreign workers. Even when they can't get enough workers to fill all the positions they still refuse to pay more than minimum wage. They will shut down operations rather than pay more than minimum wage.
As to your question about visas for foreign workers, where have you been? The Democrats have been fighting for that forever.
What utter nonsense to claim that it's only Republican owned businesses that hire cheap, illegal labor. Where the hell are you getting that? If it's the Republicans that only want these illegals to increase their profits then why are the Democrats accommodating them with virtual open borders? Why would they care about a so-called labor shortage for Republican held businesses? You make no sense at all!
Wages would have to go up with the exit of illegal aliens out of our country otherwise who would the employers hire then if not Americans or legal immigrants for a fair wage? Who do you think you are kiddng? Let them go out of business then if they don't want to do that. It would still be cheaper than the taxpayer having to cover the social costs of illegal aliens. We don't need a burger joint, etc. on every corner that doesn't pay a liveable wage anyway. We have far too many of them and they just need to fold up and die.
Please provide a link where the Democrats have been trying to get visas for jobs to be filled by foreingers for jobs that pay a liveable wage and where there isn't enough Americans to do them of which the Republicans don't want to pass a bill on. Healthcare might be the only exception and I don't know of any Republican who would object to legal foreign healthcare workers. No way in hell should we be importing foreingers for minimum wage jobs whereby we have to subsidize their living costs and they create overcrowded conditions, etc. How is that a benefit to the taxpayer?
Irregardless, our government nor the employers have a right to allow illegals to come here or to work here. What part of that don't you get? Are you completely ignorant of our laws and that our government is supposed to uphold them? There are no excuses not to!
The Cartel puppet President of failed narco state Mexico will ask dementia Joe to open the borders to Mexico and the entirety of the Western Hemisphere.
I warned everyone in November 2020 the democrats ultimate dream is to flood the country with 100s of millions (yes hundreds) of "migrants." But all the lefties screamed that's not true at all and just right wing scaremongering
Maybe the USA should put up billboards in in Central American countries like Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico, Nicaragua, and so on, telling people not the come or they will be arrested at the US border and refused entry and their children and infants will be kidnapped and kept in cages in unsanitary conditions without beds or baths, possibly never to be returned to their families. That oughta to do it.
What utter nonsense to claim that it's only Republican owned businesses that hire cheap, illegal labor. Where the hell are you getting that? If it's the Republicans that only want these illegals to increase their profits then why are the Democrats accommodating them with virtual open borders? Why would they care about a so-called labor shortage for Republican held businesses? You make no sense at all!
Just because you can't understand it, doesn't make it nonsense. Even Trump himself never proposed cutting the border off completely. He wanted a 50% wall. Biden cut it off at 25%, saving taxpayers a massive amount of money, with the same results. 25%, 50% what's the difference? You think making migrants travel a few hundred miles farther is going to stop them from entering the US? If you do I have a bridge somewhere to sell you. The wall is not there to keep migrants out of the US, it's there to control the flow. It's like a giant faucet and the Republicans are the main beneficiaries of it.
Nobody who understands economics would ever propose cutting off the flow of migrants into the US. Without them crops will rot in the ground. Because Americans will never stand out in the heat for 10 or 12 hours a day to pick them for below minimum wage.
Just because you can't understand it, doesn't make it nonsense. Even Trump himself never proposed cutting the border off completely. He wanted a 50% wall. Biden cut it off at 25%, saving taxpayers a massive amount of money, with the same results. 25%, 50% what's the difference? You think making migrants travel a few hundred miles farther is going to stop them from entering the US? If you do I have a bridge somewhere to sell you. The wall is not there to keep migrants out of the US, it's there to control the flow. It's like a giant faucet and the Republicans are the main beneficiaries of it.
Nobody who understands economics would ever propose cutting off the flow of migrants into the US. Without them crops will rot in the ground. Because Americans will never stand out in the heat for 10 or 12 hours a day to pick them for below minimum wage.
What's to understand? You think it's understandable to allow illegal aliens into our country to work? WTH?
Why should we have to cut the border off completely? There are and always will be legal ports of entry. So WTH are you talking about? We just need to finish the balance of the wall which is 90% effective in deterring illegal entry. Once agan, we only need 1,000 miles of wall on the most porous areas of the border as the rest is nearly impassable terrain so fewer will try to enter through those areas and fewer will succeed. So yes, it does control the flow but controlling it by 90% isn't good enough for you?
Again, why do you keep repeating yourself? If as you said it is the Republicans who mostly benefit from it (which is BS anyway) then why is Biden allowing a virtual open border under his watch? You've never answered that question except to yammer about a labor shortage which is no excuse and with your claims it would beneft the Republicans! You make no sense at all!
Economics do not overrule our immigrations laws so again WTH are you talking about? If we need immigrants for labor or for any other reason they must come here legally. What part of that do you continue not get? We have unlimited H-2A visas for legal farm worker so again, WTH are you talkng about? Most illegals aren't picking crops anyway most have taken jobs from Americans that they do want by working for less. Are you ok with that to? I have news for you plenty of Americans work out in the hot sun all day doing manual labor work and they always have. How good is it economically for regular Americans to have to pay their share of the over $100 billion a year for these illegal's social costs while the greedy employers reap the profis form cheap, ilegal labor? I can't believe that there are people out there like you. It actually makes me sick to my stomach!
I have no further need to discuss this issue with you.
Economics do not overrule our immigrations laws so again WTH are you talking about? If we need immigrants for labor or for any other reason they must come here legally..
Economics overrides EVERYTHING in a capitalistic society. There is no legal way for them to enter the US.
It's like a sick joke.
MAGA Trumper: Hey you get back to Mexico and come in legally.
The Cartel puppet President of failed narco state Mexico will ask dementia Joe to open the borders to Mexico and the entirety of the Western Hemisphere.
I warned everyone in November 2020 the democrats ultimate dream is to flood the country with 100s of millions (yes hundreds) of "migrants." But all the lefties screamed that's not true at all and just right wing scaremongering
Economics overrides EVERYTHING in a capitalistic society. There is no legal way for them to enter the US.
It's like a sick joke.
MAGA Trumper: Hey you get back to Mexico and come in legally.
Migrant: How do I do that?
MAGA Trumper: You can't. Ha, ha, ha.
Not "you cant". More like, "That's for you to figure out."
We let a number of people in legally every year, so clearly you CAN. And we would let quite a bit more in legally every year if all of these people weren't jumping the line and breaking in illegally.
There will never be enough spots for all the people who come here illegally. Otherwise, they would all be coming legally. But the point that seems to be missing from your post is, it is not for THEM to decide how many people come here. It is for US to decide how many people we need.
Why does every other country on the planet get to decide who and how many immigrants come to their countries? Why are WE the only one who is "racist" if we enforce our immigration laws?
And if we ever had a chance to keep the illegals out, we would likely determine we need a lot more immigrants than we are legally allowing, and then we would have a lot more LEGAL immigrants.
Not "you cant". More like, "That's for you to figure out."
We let a number of people in legally every year, so clearly you CAN. And we would let quite a bit more in legally every year if all of these people weren't jumping the line and breaking in illegally.
There will never be enough spots for all the people who come here illegally. Otherwise, they would all be coming legally. But the point that seems to be missing from your post is, it is not for THEM to decide how many people come here. It is for US to decide how many people we need.
Why does every other country on the planet get to decide who and how many immigrants come to their countries? Why are WE the only one who is "racist" if we enforce our immigration laws?
And if we ever had a chance to keep the illegals out, we would likely determine we need a lot more immigrants than we are legally allowing, and then we would have a lot more LEGAL immigrants.
Well stated and our economy does not override our immigration laws nor should it. There are more immigrants that want to come here than we need or can provide for. Should we just allow them all in legally anyway? What kind of person thinks that way? What kind of person puts foreigners above our own citizen's needs?
Not "you cant". More like, "That's for you to figure out."
We let a number of people in legally every year, so clearly you CAN. And we would let quite a bit more in legally every year if all of these people weren't jumping the line and breaking in illegally.
There will never be enough spots for all the people who come here illegally. Otherwise, they would all be coming legally. But the point that seems to be missing from your post is, it is not for THEM to decide how many people come here. It is for US to decide how many people we need.
Why does every other country on the planet get to decide who and how many immigrants come to their countries? Why are WE the only one who is "racist" if we enforce our immigration laws?
And if we ever had a chance to keep the illegals out, we would likely determine we need a lot more immigrants than we are legally allowing, and then we would have a lot more LEGAL immigrants.
Maybe not, but removing the nationality quotas that keep Mexicans out would be a nice first step.
Well stated and our economy does not override our immigration laws nor should it. There are more immigrants that want to come here than we need or can provide for. Should we just allow them all in legally anyway? What kind of person thinks that way? What kind of person puts foreigners above our own citizen's needs?
Except that it does. That's why they are here and will continue to be here as long as the US is a capitalist country, no matter how much you don't want them here. Again the border will never, never be closed. The wall will just get bigger and bigger on parts of the border.
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If it's the Republicans that only want these illegals to increase their profits then why are the Democrats accommodating them with virtual open borders? Why would they care about a so-called labor shortage for Republican held businesses? You make no sense at all!
