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Old 06-26-2022, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
They don't want you killing babies in their states, youll just have to respect that . And because you pushed from infrequent and safe, to convenient ,often and right up to the time of birth, you'll need to be reigned in with a national law prohibiting them in all states.
Congrats youve done it to yourselves.
That's quite an opinion, this it the pro-birth movement bit they don't seem to care much after the child is born. These states will be on par with the Congo and Iraq.

Many of the other civilized countries that allow abortion don't share your view.

 
Old 06-26-2022, 06:36 PM
 
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That's quite an opinion, this it the pro-birth movement bit they don't seem to care much after the child is born. These states will be on par with the Congo and Iraq.

Many of the other civilized countries that allow abortion don't share your view.
you mean like every leftist run city?

And killing babies isnt exactly a qualifier for civilization. Good lord

The arguments you people are putting forward dont exactly make you look like you think they do.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Rightfully so. The rights of the fetus do not trump the rights of the woman who is pregnant. Besides, a fetus cannot speak and lacks the requisite brain power to even know it exists.
Plenty of humans cannot speak (mute), and many lack the brain power of awareness (Dementia, coma, mental illness, stroke)

Glad that you think they don’t have the right to live.

Do you plan to start pulling the plug in nursing homes, mental institutions, and hospitals? Will you be arresting the homeless who are mentally ill?

Last edited by Rocko20; 06-26-2022 at 06:56 PM..
 
Old 06-26-2022, 06:40 PM
 
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The republican actions regarding the supreme court picks under Obama and Trump is what politicized the court, this is just the end result. If it was a republican president and the normal process was followed then there would not be such a furor.
..and the supremes just ruled they have less power...

you don't get that
 
Old 06-26-2022, 06:48 PM
 
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There is this very very Constitutional thing. It's called "equal protection under the law" which comes from the 14th Amendment. It is this part of the 14th Amendment that keeps white people or black people from gaining preferential treatment. It is this clause that makes it illegal for employers to hire, fire, promote, or pay less money on the basis of gender or race. And by that same token, a woman cannot have more rights than any other human being. That would include the baby growing inside her.

As to how self-aware an unborn baby is, the more we learn the more we realize that babies are a lot more aware than anyone could have imagined. But frankly, your contempt for unborn babies is extremely disturbing. It certainly sounds like you hold unborn babies with absolute contempt, viewing them as worthless trash. It does seem that you refuse to acknowledge their humanity in any way whatsoever. Kinda creepy to be honest. This is an emotionally charged issue to be certain, but that's a whole lotta baby-hatred there.
The unborn are not persons. Future persons, perhaps, but while in the womb. And that's ignoring the fact that it's despicable of anyone to force a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term. It's no one's business but hers.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 06:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
They don't want you killing babies in their states, youll just have to respect that . And because you pushed from infrequent and safe, to convenient ,often and right up to the time of birth, you'll need to be reigned in with a national law prohibiting them in all states.
Congrats youve done it to yourselves.
Are you OK with women dying from pregnancy because doctors are too afraid of the potential consequences to perform a needed abortion? That's already happening in Texas.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 06:54 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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Originally Posted by godofthunder9010 View Post
There is this very very Constitutional thing. It's called "equal protection under the law" which comes from the 14th Amendment. It is this part of the 14th Amendment that keeps white people or black people from gaining preferential treatment. It is this clause that makes it illegal for employers to hire, fire, promote, or pay less money on the basis of gender or race. And by that same token, a woman cannot have more rights than any other human being. That would include the baby growing inside her.

As to how self-aware an unborn baby is, the more we learn the more we realize that babies are a lot more aware than anyone could have imagined. But frankly, your contempt for unborn babies is extremely disturbing. It certainly sounds like you hold unborn babies with absolute contempt, viewing them as worthless trash. It does seem that you refuse to acknowledge their humanity in any way whatsoever. Kinda creepy to be honest. This is an emotionally charged issue to be certain, but that's a whole lotta baby-hatred there.
What law says that a fetus is a baby? What legal precedent? Thanks.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Are you OK with women dying from pregnancy because doctors are too afraid of the potential consequences to perform a needed abortion?
Are you OK with women not being held accountable for refusing to use cheap, affordable, and easily accessible contraceptives in the worlds richest country with men who clearly don’t want to stick around?
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:03 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Are you OK with women dying from pregnancy because doctors are too afraid of the potential consequences to perform a needed abortion? That's already happening in Texas.
Prove that women cannot have abortions in TX right now if their pregnancy is threatening their lives.
 
Old 06-26-2022, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The unborn are not persons.
That’s up to the state.
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